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Getting help - March 10th 2013, 07:37 PM

This is kind of hard for me to write.

I've been struggling for a number of years now with suicidal thoughts and self harm and I'm sure there's a high possibility that I'm struggling with depression or am bipolar. I've spoken to the person closest to me and they are worried about me and want to to try and find some help, as do I, I want to talk to a professional who can either help me or tell me i'm okay.

But I don't know how to go about it...

I'm scared and don't know what to do or where to start.

So if there's anyone in the UK who had help from a professional in any form then can you please tell me how you went about it?

I'm only 18 and have extremely limited funds so can't really afford to pay for anything, I just want someone to talk to and answer my questions and help me through this, just a professional, someone who understands and can help me long term hopefully.

Any responses would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Getting help - March 10th 2013, 07:42 PM

Just realised this could go elsewhere, please move it if you feel I should have posted it somewhere else.


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Re: Getting help - March 11th 2013, 02:44 AM

Hi Megan.

Firstly, it's great that you've come to us for some support and help and even more wonderful that you're wanting to get some support in place for yourself in "real life". I think you're taking some really positive steps in the right direction and you should be really proud of yourself.

I'll start by telling you that I live England and I'm nearly nineteen. I was referred on to the Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services when I was about 13/14. I've also been in-patient three times but when I turned eighteen, I was referred into adult services. I'm now seeing a community psychiatric nurse in the adult team and I'm on the waiting list or psychology - I also see my doctor weekly.

Now. Luckily, because we have the NHS you don't have to pay unless you decide to go through it all privately. If you want to go through the NHS (like me) then you can simply book an appointment with your GP at your doctors surgery to talk to them about your concerns and how you feel. You can also ask for a referral to your local adult mental health team. Normally, your GP will send the referral through and you'll get a letter through the post a few weeks (sometimes a few months) later with a date and time for an assessment. In the assessment you will be asked questions about your mood, past experiences, alcohol use, drug use, any medications etc and this assessment will kind of decide what support will be put in place for you.

There are different types of support. You might be referred to a psychiatrist who will look into medications and possibly a diagnosis with you, a community psychiatric nurse who may do something like CBT with you. You may be referred onto psychology/psychotherapy or you may even be referred on to a specialist social worker etc. It all really depends and it may even be more than just one of those people. For example, I see a CPN and a psychiatrist (and soon a psychologist). I also see a social worker about funding for driving lessons etc.

Another option which I am aware of is to go through an organisation called Mind. I've seen a counsellor from there before for a few months. Again, it is free and it will depend on whether there is one in your area. It is a national organisation so there's a good chance there will be and it's something to look into.

So, I hope this helps a little and I hope more than anything that you see your GP and get the help you deserve and need. If you have any questions, feel free to reply back or shoot me a PM.

Take good care of yourself and stay smiling, you can do this.
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Re: Getting help - March 11th 2013, 05:20 AM

Hi, Megan.

Jessie gave you some great, helpful information so there's not much to say, but I just wanted to let you know that if you need someone to talk to, feel free to PM/VM me anytime and I'd gladly listen.

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Re: Getting help - March 11th 2013, 05:55 PM

Hi, I'm 21 and live in england and got help for the first time at 18. My support has been a bit shaky as I've moved 4 times since then and each place has a different mental health team. Seeing your GP is the first thing to do, they can talk to you and give you a diagnosis if they can and possibly prescribe meds, they can also refer you to professionals such as psychiatrists, CPN's and counsellors. Whoever they refer you to will initially do an assessment with you, where they ask you loads of basic questions about your mood, family history, home situation etc and this will help them to find out how they can best help you. It will be free if you go through the NHS.
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Re: Getting help - March 11th 2013, 06:54 PM

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Hi, I'm 21 and live in england and got help for the first time at 18. My support has been a bit shaky as I've moved 4 times since then and each place has a different mental health team. Seeing your GP is the first thing to do, they can talk to you and give you a diagnosis if they can and possibly prescribe meds, they can also refer you to professionals such as psychiatrists, CPN's and counsellors. Whoever they refer you to will initially do an assessment with you, where they ask you loads of basic questions about your mood, family history, home situation etc and this will help them to find out how they can best help you. It will be free if you go through the NHS.
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Your GP should not be diagnosing you with a mental health illness since they do not specialise in mental health. If you're wanting to look into a diagnosis, you need to see a psychiatrist.


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Re: Getting help - March 11th 2013, 10:11 PM

Hey Megan

I think you've been given the best advice here, but as I'm in the UK under the mental health services I thought I'd say a bit how it worked for me!

I was in the Child and Adolescent services when I was 14/15 for a little while after I had been referred by my GP. I wasn't in a place to receive help (and didn't really want it at that point) so pretended I was fine and got myself discharged. I started seeing a different counsellor at an NSPCC centre when I was 16 for two years, which was completely free. Things still didn't get any better/got worse I guess and I got referred to the adult mental health services and currently get support from them.

Best thing you can do is to make an appointment with your GP, like the others have said Your GP will talk to you and may be able to offer some advice and support and if she thinks it's depression she may prescribe you some medication (my GP has prescribed most of mine over the years) but it will only be anti-depressants, unless something else has been authorised by a psychiatrist.

You can ask your GP to refer you to the adult mental health services and they will write a letter and explain what you have said to them - so as hard as it might be, you need to be really honest and tell them exactly how you are feeling, so they see how they can help you. All of this is free as it is under the NHS but because of this, they expect patients to work with them and have certain 'requirements' for people to use the service and access help. I'm only saying this because I have a friend who has been turned down help because of a useless GP, so try and make sure you can see a good one - if you aren't happy, you can always arrange to see another. Then like the others have said, you'll have an 'assessment' where they talk with you and work out what support you need etc. You may have a bit of time to wait before you hear from them as they have long waiting lists for things, due to there not being enough funding/staff to help everyone at once. Try not to lose hope if this happens - you can and will get help, you can always contact your GP in the mean time if it's taking a while.

There are many charity organisations that will offer support to people as well, for a variety of things. However they aren't able to offer a diagnosis - so if you want to seek a diagnosis or medication as part of treatment, then a psychiatrist is the way forward. But, they can run different support groups for a variety of things (self harm, combatting anxiety, hearing voices, coping with different things etc) that you might find beneficial. I don't know the area you live in, but if you google it, you may be able to find something. There is probably someone you could talk to through there - but most charity workers in organisations like Mind etc are counsellors, rather than medical professionals, so won't be able to offer you a proper diagnosis or prescribe medication.

Also, you have said you're 18? If so, are you at sixth form/college/university? If so, they will offer support for students there as well - you could check that out and see what they have to offer? They will be able to help you with how you feel and how it may impact on your studies as well.

I hope this has helped a bit, sorry it's so long and rambly! Sorry if it seems a bit 'doom and gloom' and I really don't mean to discourage you (I hope it hasn't?) but I just don't want you to get your hopes up that it will all happen super quickly. It may do though! I hope you can reach out and get the help you deserve. It will be okay, the help and support is out there

Take care

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