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Are We a Threat To Society? - April 25th 2015, 12:08 PM

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I was thinking about the case of Andreas Lubitz, the young pilot who deliberately crashed a Germanwings jet in a 150-tuple murder-suicide. I was thinking about the mental health screening industries do and the consequences the revelation of mental illnesses and histories with suicides and Depression can have.

Industries remove people with mental illnesses from their work.

I can see why they do that but what does it mean for us? Most of us are here because we are suicidal or depressed or self-harming. Are we a threat to society? Are we, left unattended, unstable, hazardous individuals?

Most of the people I have met who have had histories with suicidal tendencies or are currently suicidal, are normal individuals, they are just hurt. Most of the people who I have met with Depression or other mental illnesses are normal individuals, they are just bruised.

I mean not to compare people with mental illnesses to Andreas Lubitz, his was an extreme case of suicidal action, but I mean how many other people, how many bus drivers, train drivers, police and paramedics, how many of them have been taken out of work due to their injuries?

It is a weird concept for me. I think of myself as a normal human being, but broken. These sorts of cases and the treatment of people with mental illnesses, it makes us seem un-human.

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Re: Are We a Threat To Society? - April 25th 2015, 12:31 PM

Hey there,

I think in this situation where someone is so depressed that they will do almost anything to end their life then they can be a threat to society. Majority of people suffering with depression and other mental illnesses are not going to become a threat to others around them. I think this is a very sad and very rare case. I don't think that makes other people a threat. No one can know what mental place Andreas Lubitz was in, but I would imagine he was in a very bad place and probably did not think about what he was going to do before he done it. I feel for those families who have been affected by this and lost their loved ones and there definitely has to be more rigorous checks with regards to mental health when working in a job where so many people's lives are at stake and you have so much responsibility for the safety of others.


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Re: Are We a Threat To Society? - April 26th 2015, 01:56 AM

I think most people who suffer from any form of mental illness are conscious and considerate enough not to put others in harm's way (at least not deliberately). Of course, accidents do happen and unfortunately, there are also some selfish people out there who simply do not care how their actions affect others (whether they struggle with mental illness or not).

Your topic is a worthwhile one and absolutely something that should be discussed and considered. In regard to your question, I would say no, we are not a threat to society overall, but unfortunate circumstances will occasionally occur - accidentally or otherwise - when dealing with something so critical.
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Re: Are We a Threat To Society? - April 26th 2015, 03:13 AM

Is depression a threat to society? Yes. Are it's sufferers? Not for the most part.

Only in extreme situations would mental illness drive someone to become a threat to society. Being a threat to yourself is technically being a threat to society since you're a member of society. But that aside, and thinking about it from a harming other people approach, I don't think so. Only in very rare cases. I think when taking people out of work for mental illness I think it's more a case of trying to help them, not because they perceive the person as a threat.

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Re: Are We a Threat To Society? - April 26th 2015, 09:33 PM

I really don't think most people with mental illness(s) are a threat to society. I know that there are some mental illnesses that do in fact make you a threat and sometimes in rare occurrences somebody who is suicidal could also be a threat. But for the most part, somebody suffering from a mental illness doesn't want to harm another soul, even when they are suicidal.

I no longer am depressed or suicidal, and I would like to think that when I was I was at no harm to society. The issue is media stigmatizes mental illness(s) and always shows us the "horror" stories where it makes people think that people who suffer from a mental illness are indeed a threat and I believe that is very wrong.

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