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Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 17th 2012, 10:46 PM

I have no idea if this is in the right place (probably not) so it can be moved if need be. Okay so I have always been afraid of things like the dark and the doctors and the dentist and horror movies and all that stuff just like a lot of other people. But in the last two years maybe a bit longer I have been getting worse and worse. I know people can't tell me for sure if I have paranoia because they aren't doctors and all that but I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they think it is likely (or maybe something else) based on what they know and maybe give some advice. I am at the point where I am terrified of the dark so that I have panic attack's and freak out if I am left alone when it is dark outside or inside. I am always afraid something or someone is going to come out of the shadows somewhere and attack me. Even if the doors are locked and I know I am safe I still freak out sometimes. I am also terrified of other things like doctors and whatnot because I am terrified they are going to hurt me or kill me or something. I know that I am often being irrational but I just can't help myself my fear drowns out any rational thought's. I haven't been to a doctor in 10 years and nothing anyone says or does can get me to go. The last time I tried to go I had a panic attack in the parking lot . I don't know what has come over me in the last few years but it is becoming harder and harder to live with. No one seems to be able to understand or to help me and I have no idea what to do. There are so many things I can't do anymore because I am too afraid and it is controlling my life. If I weren't to afraid of doctors and therapist's I would ask them for help but I AM too afraid to go anywhere near them and I don't know who else to turn to. Sorry for the long post.

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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 17th 2012, 11:29 PM

It sounds like you are having some serious concerns about your fears and your anxiety. Unfortunately, a diagnosis is only possible through a doctor. You can try looking up more information on anxiety and panic disorders on medscape reference, merck manual, mayo clinic and medline plus. Information is never a bad thing.

Have you tried anything or found that anything helps you at all?


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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 17th 2012, 11:40 PM

I have talked to a hand full of people about this (one of them was a school councellor when it first started) They have made some suggestions but they were all pretty much the same and not helpful in the least. It is like I try to explain and no one get's it or takes it seriously and no one really know's what to say. I know the only way to know for sure is through a doctor. The problem is it is hard to go to a doctor when being afraid of doctor's is your main problem in the first place it is really complicated. I will look up more information like you suggested above and hope it might help. Thank you for your reply. So far I can't find much of anything related to my problem on any of these site's.

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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 18th 2012, 12:43 AM

Why not go to a doctor with a family member or friend? I'm not sure how the Canadian medical/mental health system works, but in the United States, a medical doctor is separate from a psychological doctor. The medical doctor gives shots, conducts physical exams, etc. whereas psychological doctors may or may not do that. A therapist, for example, CAN NOT conduct medical examinations. They are not qualified to do so, because they are NOT doctors. The same thing applies for psychologists. A psychiatrist technically is a doctor; however, they rarely conduct medical examinations (although they can prescribe medication - if this happens, do some research on the medication before taking it).

Unfortunately, the paranoia/anxiety is what's keeping you from receiving treatment, and the paranoia/anxiety is what needs to be treated... so until you're willing to take a chance and put your trust in a medical and/or psychological professional, you'll be stuck in this never-ending cycle of letting your illness prevent you from treating the illness!






   
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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 18th 2012, 12:52 AM

Yes there is definitely a difference between medical and psychological I don't like either. You are absolutely right about the never ending cycle part. I guess I am just not ready to trust anyone yet. I don't know if or when I ever will be but hopefully someday... I wish there was an easier answer.
   
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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 18th 2012, 01:02 PM

Going with a friend or family member would be a good idea. You could also try to wean yourself closer to making an appointment when you feel ready. You can maybe try standing closer to the clinic each day, and gradually work you way to talking to the front desk etc. Would that maybe help?


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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 18th 2012, 02:45 PM

Aside from the suggestions already made, I personally recommend NOT looking up facts on illnesses you think you might have. For one, there's the danger of self-diagnosing, which is a problem in itself, but many people (especially those with anxiety and paranoid symtoms) have a tendency to read a list of symptoms of say, paranoia, then suddenly see something the think they have (an extreme example, but panic attacks) when they really don't. That's hard to understand...

Person A thinks they have a rare and totally made up by me disease called LUNA. So, Person A goes to trusty Wikipedia and looks up the symptoms. Symptoms include blue hands, purple spots, and tingling sensations. They have the blue hands, but blue hands are also a symptom of many other made up by me diseases. However, because they looked up LUNA, they're focused on how all of a sudden they just must have LUNA, so they start looking at themselves. Suddenly, they feel a bit tingly, and suddenly, they see purple spots. Were the tingling sensations there before? No. Were the purple spots real? No. Person A has is now certain they have this rare disease called LUNA, when they really just happen to have Blue Hands.

Person B has been sad for a week now. Granted, their Grandma just died so they have every right to be sad for awhile. But, because they're not used to feeling this way, they suddenly must think they have depression. So, like Person A, they go to wikipedia and look up symptoms of Depression. They see tireness, and remember they're always tired in the morning. (really, who isn't?) they see exhaustion, and remember that they're exhausted after a day of school. All of a sudden, they start stressing over this, to the point they actually develop depression.

This is a very real danger that I see a LOT of teenagers do here on TeenHelp, mostly with mental illnesses. It happens all the time.. It's the same reason we here can't diagnose you, and why it's illegal to pretend to be a doctor, it actually puts you in danger.




Now, was all that necessary for me to say? Probably not Like the others have said... If you want to be diagnosed, you should head over to a doctor. Though, I know how hard that is since you're scared of them! Sometimes, overcoming our fears though, include fronting them. Will you ever be ecstatic to go to the doctors? No, but maybe it'll be easier, right? Go with a trusted friend or adult, they can help hold your hand (physically or metaphorically) to get you there. No one should have to do it alone



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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 18th 2012, 04:18 PM

[quote=TheBabyEater;797865]Aside from the suggestions already made, I personally recommend NOT looking up facts on illnesses you think you might have. For one, there's the danger of self-diagnosing, which is a problem in itself, but many people (especially those with anxiety and paranoid symtoms) have a tendency to read a list of symptoms of say, paranoia, then suddenly see something the think they have (an extreme example, but panic attacks) when they really don't. That's hard to understand...

Person A thinks they have a rare and totally made up by me disease called LUNA. So, Person A goes to trusty Wikipedia and looks up the symptoms. Symptoms include blue hands, purple spots, and tingling sensations. They have the blue hands, but blue hands are also a symptom of many other made up by me diseases. However, because they looked up LUNA, they're focused on how all of a sudden they just must have LUNA, so they start looking at themselves. Suddenly, they feel a bit tingly, and suddenly, they see purple spots. Were the tingling sensations there before? No. Were the purple spots real? No. Person A has is now certain they have this rare disease called LUNA, when they really just happen to have Blue Hands.

Person B has been sad for a week now. Granted, their Grandma just died so they have every right to be sad for awhile. But, because they're not used to feeling this way, they suddenly must think they have depression. So, like Person A, they go to wikipedia and look up symptoms of Depression. They see tireness, and remember they're always tired in the morning. (really, who isn't?) they see exhaustion, and remember that they're exhausted after a day of school. All of a sudden, they start stressing over this, to the point they actually develop depression.

This is a very real danger that I see a LOT of teenagers do here on TeenHelp, mostly with mental illnesses. It happens all the time.. It's the same reason we here can't diagnose you, and why it's illegal to pretend to be a doctor, it actually puts you in danger.




Now, was all that necessary for me to say? Probably not Like the others have said... If you want to be diagnosed, you should head over to a doctor. Though, I know how hard that is since you're scared of them! Sometimes, overcoming our fears though, include fronting them. Will you ever be ecstatic to go to the doctors? No, but maybe it'll be easier, right? Go with a trusted friend or adult, they can help hold your hand (physically or metaphorically) to get you there. No one should have to do it alone
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Your long post was very helpful. I agree with a lot of what you said. I am not trying to self diagnose myself or get anyone else here to. I started to look some stuff up after someone suggested it but it seemed silly to me and wasn't helpful so I quit that. I actually don't really think I have paranoia. But I just don't know why I am so afraid of so many things and I wan't to stop. I had hoped someone could have any ideas for me besides taking someone with me or slowly getting more used to it or just plain getting it over with quickly. Because I have tried all of these things more than once and I am still the same. It was probably silly of me to even make a post here and I was silly to expect answers. I was just desperate for someone to tell me something useful because I have been very frustrated with this lately. Thank you everyone for your kind replies

p.s. I have had someone take me so that I would be less afraid and it took a few times going to the parking lot and not getting further but eventually I did go inside. After a few times going inside i eventually talked to the secretary and waited in the waiting room a while. I waited too long and got afraid and left.Then the next time I waited long enough to see a doctor but I made my bf stay with me the whole time and I was sweating and shaking and breathing too quickly and kept saying I wanted to leave. When I talked to the doctor I down played all my symptoms (whatever i was sick with at the time) and lied about a few things refused an iv when they offered then said this is usless and i left. my bf had been there the whole time new i had lied a bunch of stuff but he didnt say anything he just sat there and after i left he got frustrated with me. since then he has given up on trying again and i dont have anyone else that cares enough or takes it seriously enough. I dont have anything i NEED to see a dctor for right now so i guess its not a big deal.

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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 18th 2012, 04:49 PM

Well, never be afraid to post anything here on TH, we love to help out! I don't think asking about this was silly at all. I know I've had my own share of problems dealing with anxiety, ext...

I think it's great you got up the courage to go to the doctor. I know how hard it is, and I think you should remember to remind yourself how GREAT it is that you went! You're strong, remember that Maybe in the future you'll get a more forgiving doctor.

Fears are definitely NOT easy to get over, one of the hardest things to in my experience. Don't put yourself down over it. Sadly... I don't have much in the way of advice to get over fears. There are many different methods to get over things, I'm most familiar with flooding... That is doing it all at once, EXTREMELY. Like, a person who is severely fraid of spiders would be asked to put multiple tarantulas on their body and stuff. It's really extreme, and really hard for most people. That's why most people choose to take it a little bit at a time, thats what you did with the doctor today. (I can tell you more after my psychology class this semester lol) The biggest step to overcoming fear is to never give up. Even though, and especially, when it's hard.
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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 18th 2012, 07:28 PM

lol The part about going to the doctor didn't happen today. The whole thing happened over a fairly long period of time ending about 5 months ago I think and I have't gone since. But knowing that I was able to go once helps me a little in believing I will go again one day.
   
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Re: Do I have paranoia and is it a mental thing? - January 20th 2012, 09:55 PM

Sounds like you are suffering from anxiety attacks. Keep in mind that I am no docter, but that is what it sounds like. My advice is to seek help from a professional. They can prescribe you medicene if it is needed.
As a suffer from a mild form of paranoid shizophrenia I know how you feel. Like no one gets that it IS a serious problem that can be a danger to yourself and others.
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