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Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 26th 2009, 10:50 PM

Hi. So this post is a bit longer, but i just need to get this out...
I'm so pissed right now, and i think I will be for a while.
So we had to do this paper about a lecture that we went. So I spend an afternoon doing the paper with the things i remembered and the notes i had from the lecture. I had all ready to deliver, and a classmate asked if i could lend mine so he can see how i did it and see how it was supposed to be organized, and because he was overwhelm with work and school work, i didn't mind and i send him mine and told him to change things and re-write the stuff.
So, the teacher delivered the papers, and on my paper it said that the correction was on my other friend's paper. I guess he didn't change a word, just pictures and font's. I got so pissed at him, and also at my teacher. I mean, i delivered first, i also have some more point's at the paper than him, but it looks like the teacher thought i copy the paper from him. But the im most angry that he didn't even thought of saying something, just acted normal.
I thought of talking to the teacher, and asking why should i have to see his paper when i spend the afternoon making that. But i know how this things can go, and my test grade could drop more than it should, if you know what i mean...
Has any of you been throw this? I don't remember this happening to me before. Although i even have some more point's, i think that is unfair, because i did all the work, and probably the teacher won't have that in mind.
   
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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 26th 2009, 11:15 PM

Something similar happened, but not in the same context..
my friend had lost a sheet and asked me if I could make a photocopy of mine for her
but the thing is that I had already answered some questions on the sheet itself, so my answers ended up on her copy, so she couldn't do much but leave it there
And then a guy asked her to copy it for him, and she also had written some stuff down, so we all got 0/20 because the teacher thought we copied each other (which is rather stupid to think as the answers were exactly identical, the handwriting and everything, which is impossible to do by hand)
so we explained the situation to the teacher, who believed us, but still left us with our marks as it "served us right"

Was it an important paper you had to hand in?
If it wasn't, I wouldn't worry that much.. If it was then you better ask your friend to go talk to the teacher with you. (or maybe invent something like "we worked together" that's what I usually do when possible!)

Yet it was rather silly of your friend to just leave it as you gave it to him, without even changing a thing!


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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 26th 2009, 11:15 PM

Hi there,

That is definitely unfair, and I do think that you should talk to the teacher about it. Clarify that your classmate just wanted to see the formatting of your paper and that you did not expect him to copy it at all. It's not fair to have your mark drop because of someone else.

Also, I think that you should learn from this. Although it's unfair, and you didn't know he would copy, I would suggest not lending out your work in the future, no matter how desperate the person is. If they can't do the assignment on their own, then their final mark should show that, not yours.

I'm glad you got your frustrations out, and I really hope you can get the teacher to understand what went on. Is there a way to see when the document was saved on your computer? That may be able to show it's originality.

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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 26th 2009, 11:37 PM

Volcots,that situation also suck's =/, specialy because of the mark you end up for helping. Some people just don't apreciate the help they get. Mine it wasn't the most important one, and the teacher also deliverd other one where i got almost the maximum mark. The teacher will have in consideration both papers to the final mark, but still, i don't want to pass by someone that copies other people, i don't like, i rather having a bit lower mark than go and copy other people, and this mark will count...
Strider, yes, i just checked and the date and time when the paper was done is record on the my computer. And also delivered the paper first, i don't know if the teacher remembered that.
I don't think talking to the teacher will do much, specialy to my mark, because she not one of those teachers that like to change grades and be corrected, but after my tests are done and if this situation about the work come up, i will probably say something...
Off course, i learned from this, i mean, i always know this stuff can happen, but i don't really except it. Anyway, it's my last weeks in high school, too bad i learned too late.

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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 27th 2009, 06:40 AM

I guess it depends on the rules at your school. In mine, it's not only against the rules to copy another person's paper, it's also against the rules to allow someone to copy or cheat off of you. And you sent him your paper, so the teacher might try to count that as you letting him copy.


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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 29th 2009, 02:46 PM

Hi. Thank you for all the reply's.
I don't belive that there is actually a rule about that in my school, but of course, not everybody lends their papers because of the risk of being copied, but sometimes you try to help, and this is what you get...
I talked with him, told him how mad i was because of that, he said he changed parts of the paper( obviously only changed some fonts and pictures, not much more), and apologize. I don't know if we are going to tell the teacher, because i know it won't change my mark or anything, but if the teacher come up and say something about this paper, he will have to tell.
   
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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 29th 2009, 03:21 PM

I would tell the teacher, and sooner rather than later, if you wait till you get your tests then you might not can do anything about it.

Maybe she might give you marks, if you both go and explain to her?

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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - May 29th 2009, 04:22 PM

ugh the injustice of it all.

Im really sorry that happened, and hope you can put it right before its too late.


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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - June 4th 2009, 03:05 AM

I want to thank all of you for your support and advice.
Like i said, days ago i talked with him and he apologized for all that confusion, which doesn't really help much after the damage is done. But you know, after ranting about this here and the day after i felt a bit more calm, so since i was getting the grade and even had more points, i decided that if the teacher talked about this paper, he would tell he just copied all of it.
But the teacher didn't talked about it, counted it as part of the final grade, and i decided to move on and let this be this way.
Once again, thank you.

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Re: Im so pissed. My paper was kind of copied. - June 4th 2009, 07:58 PM

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I want to thank all of you for your support and advice.
Like i said, days ago i talked with him and he apologized for all that confusion, which doesn't really help much after the damage is done. But you know, after ranting about this here and the day after i felt a bit more calm, so since i was getting the grade and even had more points, i decided that if the teacher talked about this paper, he would tell he just copied all of it.
But the teacher didn't talked about it, counted it as part of the final grade, and i decided to move on and let this be this way.
Once again, thank you.
I'm glad you managed to sort it out. =]

As such, I'm going to go ahead and close this since you seem happy with the outcome. If you need it reopened in the near future for any reason, feel free to PM me. And don't hesitate to open a new thread if you need help with something.

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