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Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 26th 2011, 05:49 AM

It pisses me off. There are way too many people in this world that can't see beyond their little sphere of the world. The prejudice in this world disgusts me. It would be hypocritical of me to say that I've never shown judgment to someone, but I do regret it. I hope all of you do too. I just don't understand why people find the need to be rude to someone who looks different, acts different, or has a different view of the world. We're all people with valid opinions. No one deserves to feel belittled or cast aside because of who they choose to be! It bugs me so much that people can't seem to understand that.

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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 26th 2011, 05:52 AM

I agree 100%!!!! It makes me sick to see people put down about how they look/act! Its not their fault, and half the time nothing is wrong with them.


When someone apologizes enough times for something they'll never stop doing I think its fearless to stop believing them. I think its fearless to say "Your NOT sorry" and walk away.
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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 26th 2011, 06:03 AM

It makes me happy to see that other people feel the same way about this! My little sister listens to screamo, wears dark make-up, watches anime, and is an atheist. Granted, I make fun of her for the anime thing, but she knows it's just because I'm her sister. But, it seriously pisses me off when other people tell her she's gothic, ask her why she's so mad at the world, or try to change the way she thinks. If that's the way she wants to be, then so be it! It's her life, not anyone else's. I see it happen all the time at my school too. -__-



   
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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 27th 2011, 04:39 PM

Yeah i hate that too. I mean, everyone has there own ideals and moral system so why should anyone go and change the way you think? I get some stares from people in public becouse of the way i dress, but i just ignore them and carry on.
   
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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 27th 2011, 05:12 PM

Well the moment someone doesn't conform to society's 'norms' they're casted out. Society seems to love the idea of so called 'perfection' and 9 times out of 10 we don't fit into that tiny box.

It kills me to see such narrow minded people and I see a lot of them living where I do. But the main reason for ignorance/ lack of tolerance is a lack of education. But sadly parents don't like it when their child is being taught 'it's OK to be gay'. People also have a tough time moving away from the old stigma that comes with mental health. I've met loads of people who still laugh at those who are different due to MH issues or Learning disabilities or who think these people should be locked away.

It's awful. It'll take a lot of education and a lot of time before we'll get away from this- sadly.
   
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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 27th 2011, 06:54 PM

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Yeah i hate that too. I mean, everyone has there own ideals and moral system so why should anyone go and change the way you think? I get some stares from people in public becouse of the way i dress, but i just ignore them and carry on.
That's ridiculous. Keep dressing the way you want to dress! More power to ya!

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It kills me to see such narrow minded people and I see a lot of them living where I do. But the main reason for ignorance/ lack of tolerance is a lack of education. But sadly parents don't like it when their child is being taught 'it's OK to be gay'. People also have a tough time moving away from the old stigma that comes with mental health. I've met loads of people who still laugh at those who are different due to MH issues or Learning disabilities or who think these people should be locked away.
No one deserves to be locked away. It's as simple as that. I don't understand conservative parents that try to shield the kids from the differences in society. Honestly, it's the real world. They need to be exposed to it and learn to be accepting of it from a young age.



   
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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 28th 2011, 06:42 AM

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It makes me happy to see that other people feel the same way about this! My little sister listens to screamo, wears dark make-up, watches anime, and is an atheist. Granted, I make fun of her for the anime thing, but she knows it's just because I'm her sister. But, it seriously pisses me off when other people tell her she's gothic, ask her why she's so mad at the world, or try to change the way she thinks. If that's the way she wants to be, then so be it! It's her life, not anyone else's. I see it happen all the time at my school too. -__-
They learned from whatever source(s) that gothic people act and dress in a certain way, and that it's not a very popular social group within society. That person's ignorance stems from whatever information sources and those sources got their information from other sources, so it eventually resembles to telephone game. If you get angry at such a person and tell them their information is incorrect, then you have to provide them with correct information, otherwise their ignorance will remain. Ideally, the information sources should be addressed but that's usually not feasible.

Humans are not the only critters who exclude others from their social groups. Dogs do it pretty often, go to any dog park that's fairly busy and you'll see a few dogs are the oddballs out. For example, my dogs won't play with boxers, even if boxers are the only other dogs around. So this issue of people being too judgemental isn't a new issue nor is it something we can will ourselves to somehow overcome. Instead, we can try to reduce it as much as possible.

In terms of fashion, I'm not a fashion guru. I wear whatever looks good, isn't insanely expensive, I like it and it fits, so some days I wear one style, another day another style, a third day, yet another style. Sometimes I get positive comments, which is nice and I thank them. Other times I get a negative comment. I actually like negative comments because for me, that's an excuse to be just as rude (within proportion) or simply as entertainment to laugh at. Chances are I'll keep wearing that clothing.


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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 28th 2011, 02:21 PM

I won't necessarily be rude to someone, unless they provoke me, but I do and probably always will judge people by how they act (their actions) and choices. It's only logical. It's how I've almost always chosen who I want to be friends with and who not.

I'm not going to be friends with someone who chooses to go out on Friday nights just to start fights and brag about it the next day to his friends about how "hard" he is. Lack of understanding on my part for why he does something like that? Maybe. Maybe he was beaten as a kid, and bullied in primary... but I don't care. I have to draw a line under just how understanding I am to be with people and how far I want to take it. Otherwise, I'd spend all my time doing nothing else apart from figuring other people, which would be very selfless, but ultimately you have to look after yourself. I think you'l notice there's frequently a correlation between how selfish people are and how ignorant/prejudice they are.

Apart from that note I agree fully.


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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 28th 2011, 08:20 PM

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It pisses me off. There are way too many people in this world that can't see beyond their little sphere of the world. The prejudice in this world disgusts me.

I just don't understand why people find the need to be rude to someone who looks different, acts different, or has a different view of the world. We're all people with valid opinions. No one deserves to feel belittled or cast aside because of who they choose to be! It bugs me so much that people can't seem to understand that.
That's too much of a generalization. I mean, c'mon, we all know that some people just don't deserve the respect of society at all. A picture speaks a thousand words; so here's one:

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You're glorifying the act of "being different" too much. Just because someone has an opinion does not automatically make his or her opinion valid. A limit exist for almost everything . . . almost. (We all familiar with "that certain quote" by Albert Einstein, right? )

This is why we all went against Hitler back in World War 2; this is why we buried Andrew Wakefield and his faulty research on MMR vaccine's link to autism. And then we have the non-sense Westboro Baptist Church whose existence brings bad names to all Christians. Need I list more?


Lifestyle is no exception. Stuffs like homosexuality, religion, fashion, introvert, pornography, cosplay, nights out, etc. are fine as long as they're within reasonable means. However, if I see cuts on the person's body, child pornography, drugs, involvement with gang members, etc., then it's time for interference; it's time to do our best to change that person's lifestyles, even if it is against his or her will.

Another example, a person can choose not to vaccinate, but on the condition that he or she would never travel out of his/her province or state. If that person travels to third-world countries without proper vaccination, then as cruel as it sounds, I don't think I could welcome him or her when he/she comes back. When one chooses to not vaccinate, he or she is betting on the chances that those around him or her are up-to-date with their vaccine schedule. (In economists' terms, this person is a "free rider" [more info].) In many third-world countries, this may be too big of a chance to take.



We dislike stereotypes; we dislike generalization. Yet here we are, making a blatant generalization that "No one deserves to feel belittled or cast aside because of who they choose to be." Aren't we contradicting ourselves here?


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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 28th 2011, 10:11 PM

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No one deserves to be locked away. It's as simple as that. I don't understand conservative parents that try to shield the kids from the differences in society. Honestly, it's the real world. They need to be exposed to it and learn to be accepting of it from a young age.
I know that But sadly the children of these narrow minded people usually pick up the same thoughts as their parents. It's not until they/if they decided to be open minded for once and actually listen to someone with MH issues/LD.
   
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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 29th 2011, 12:47 AM

I can put with many things from many people, but ignorance is one thing that irks me beyond belief. Some people think if someone isn't living the way they "should" be, then they ought to be rejected from the norm.
   
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Re: Ignorance/Lack of Tolerance. - November 29th 2011, 02:52 AM

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That's too much of a generalization. I mean, c'mon, we all know that some people just don't deserve the respect of society at all. A picture speaks a thousand words; so here's one:

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You're glorifying the act of "being different" too much. Just because someone has an opinion does not automatically make his or her opinion valid. A limit exist for almost everything . . . almost. (We all familiar with "that certain quote" by Albert Einstein, right? )

This is why we all went against Hitler back in World War 2; this is why we buried Andrew Wakefield and his faulty research on MMR vaccine's link to autism. And then we have the non-sense Westboro Baptist Church whose existence brings bad names to all Christians. Need I list more?


Lifestyle is no exception. Stuffs are homosexuality, religion, fashion, introvert, pornography, cosplay, nights out, etc. are fine as long as they're within reasonable means. However, if I see cuts on the person's body, child pornography, drugs, involvement with gang members, etc., then it's time for interference; it's time to do our best to change that person's lifestyles, even if it is against his or her will.

Another example, a person can choose not to vaccinate, but on the condition that he or she would never travel out of his/her province or state. If that person travels to third-world countries without proper vaccination, then as cruel as it sounds, I don't think I could welcome him or her when he/she comes back. When one chooses to not vaccinate, he or she is betting on the chances that those around him or her are up-to-date with their vaccine schedule. (In economists' terms, this person is a "free rider" [more info].) In many third-world countries, this may be too big of a chance to take.



We dislike stereotypes; we dislike generalization. Yet here we are, making a blatant generalization that "No one deserves to feel belittled or cast aside because of who they choose to be." Aren't we contradicting ourselves here?

I think we had a bit of a misunderstanding here. Of course people who do terrible things should not be tolerated. I'm in no way advocating rape, murder, or hate crimes. But, if a person wants to wear clothes that don't match, go for it. People in same-sex relationships deserve the same happiness that heterosexual people do. You're taking what I said a bit too far. I'm just saying that the average person does not deserve to be treated negatively because they don't fit your definition of "normal."



   
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