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Britain and the E.U. - February 21st 2016, 05:54 AM

We have many British members here, so I wanted to ask you the question. Should Britain remain in the E.U? International connections and global partnerships have never been more important and the British government has an opportunity to make its' thoughts and interests known around Europe. I cannot imagine why a state would want to throw that away.


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Re: Britain and the E.U. - February 22nd 2016, 12:27 PM

Absolutely. I haven't seen a single piece of information that makes me think leaving would be a good idea. What really concerns me, though, is that a lot of England seem to want to leave. If things keep going the way they are, Scotland will be dragged out against its will and boom. Another huge political fight amongst the UK.

One thing to note: The same scare stories are being spread about what will happen if Britain leaves the EU as what was threatened if Scotland left the UK. Yet this time, the media and those in charge are saying it's all nonsense.
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Re: Britain and the E.U. - February 22nd 2016, 12:53 PM

I definitely think we should stay in the EU. I don't like David Cameron, but I think he got us a good deal. By staying in, we get the best of both worlds. We still get to trade within the EU, the benefits that immigrants can get to send home to their countries will be the same amount in their home country (seeing as quite a lot of people believe that immigrants are coming over here just for the benefits, hopefully, this will stop that argument), but we still get to keep the pound (£) and are protected for things going wrong inside the EU e.g. British tax payers wont be bailing out countries in financial trouble.

I am worried that a lot of people want to get out of the EU though, especially seeing as more people voted for UKIP in the last election. I honestly don't think Britain is at all that good or powerful without the EU.


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Re: Britain and the E.U. - February 24th 2016, 01:32 PM

Definitely. The EU gives us loads of benefits. Also, I don't want to leave the EU because Cameron wants to scrap the human rights act and make a new one bass on British values... I, scared as to what these conservative British values are. Also the EU provides a lot of funding to help preserve the Welsh language, and for cultural development in British cities. I think any issues we have with the EU are solvable through debate, while we stay in the EU.


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Re: Britain and the E.U. - February 25th 2016, 01:40 AM

Is it true that Scotland can leave the UK if Britain leaves the EU? I was reading comments and statuses that said that.
   
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Re: Britain and the E.U. - February 28th 2016, 10:09 PM

I'm currently living in Ireland though I'm British. Well, I hold dual citizenship of the UK and Ireland. So, obviously my view on this is going to be significantly affected by the fact that UK leaving the EU would probably have a worse economic effect on Ireland than it would have on the UK. But I too think Brexit would be lunacy, mostly for the reasons listed above, plus because I think the anti-EU sentiment in Britain is mostly down to the ideals of idiotic nationalism purveyed by Ukip and the likes of them.

I personally think common sense will prevail and the UK will stay in the EU but then again someone who actually lives there might have a better idea of what will happen!
   
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Re: Britain and the E.U. - February 28th 2016, 10:31 PM

As a politics student and after studying the EU I personally think we should leave.



   
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Re: Britain and the E.U. - March 1st 2016, 08:42 PM

I don't like EU politics. Quite simply. Sure there are advantages, big advantages even. But the bigger picture stinks of shit.

Centralisation of power has rarely done any good for ordinary people in the long term. And dressing it up/prettyfying it with "compassion", open doors, trading agreements etc. doesn't fool me.

I first realised just what scale of power the EU has when they imposed a 60% levy tax on Cyprus. Since then I'm pretty decided about what I think of the EU.

Wanna bring Europe closer together? I'd like to be able to personally vote for the leadership they elect, instead them doing it amongst themselves with "representatives" from our countries. I think everyone should be able to vote. Then I would seriously reconsider my position, and I think many people across Europe would feel more "united" if they all had a voice in what goes on in Brussels. I would reconsider my position, doesn't mean I'd necessarily change it. I have my doubts whether such a variety of countries and cultures can collectively subscribe to one central government issuing policies and directives which by no means will suit everyone. That's the direction it's been going in.

P.S. on the note of immigrants coming over just for benefits. I have a dual nationality, Polish and British, and know plenty of people in both countries. I've also known a fair number of Polish, who quite shamelessly would brag about what benefits they were getting and sending back to their families in Poland. I've also known plenty who worked hard.

Both versions are true. However, does the fact that plenty of Polish work very hard, negate the fact that there were (or still are, I don't know) plenty who abused the system? And does that mean it should be tolerated? I don't think so. Socialism has it's purpose, but stretching it that way across countries is begging for a fight. And besides... giving people fucking freebies that way is stupid beyond comprehesion. It really does nurture a very strong sense of entitlement, and I've come across this plenty already too. It's not much different than raising kids. Investing in infrastructure development (like has been done) is a far better idea.

The fact that some idiot right wing activists only ever are concerned with contorting every piece of information to fit their own arguments, doesn't discredit facts. Facts that in one year, Polish were in the UK claiming by far the largest quantities of money in child benefits. Besides, same can be said for a lot of left wing activits. I really don't differenciate between the two mirror images of one another and what "noble causes" they hide behind to justify their bullshit: "ends justify the means". I am far more interested in facts than politics. Facts such as that Europe's decision to let in millions of "refugees" has caused widespread civil unrest, riots, instability, violence, rapes, crime committed by refugees, crime committed against refugees, strengthened racial/social divisions, over-burdened law enforcement incapable of controlling anything, turbocharged far-right extremism, etc.

No, I don't like the EU. Mistakes happen... but for one person's decision (Angela Merkel) to have such outrageous consequences across an entire continent, is dangerous. If it just so happened that another financial crisis struck in a similar time as the refugee crisis, I am 90% certain, everything would fall to pieces.

That's how fragile it is.

It has crossed my mind that the UK leaving the EU, might contribute to a financial crisis somehow. I don't know what to think of that yet though.


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