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Legal age. - April 4th 2016, 05:22 AM

So I was watching the news this morning and they were thinking of raising the age limit to purchase alcohol from 18 to 21 in Australia because of the alcohol fuelled violence.

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Re: Legal age. - April 4th 2016, 06:46 AM

I honestly don't think it's going to work, for 2 reasons. #1: What if it really isn't the alcohol's fault? Sure it might stop some of the violence but I doubt it'll cut it down dramatically to make a difference. #2: Yes it'll make it harder for those under 21 to get alcohol but not impossible. So again, the problem is really not solved. They should spend more time and money into programs to help those with problems. That's just my 2 cents.

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Re: Legal age. - April 4th 2016, 08:42 AM

Will it work? Nope. Just look at places where it doesn't work, like the USA. Drinking age: 21. Effectiveness at stopping unwanted behavior: incredibly low. Part of the prohibition of anything party-related is the rebellious "fuck you, society" that comes after it, at least in America. Some people follow the rules while the rest just go around it with a fake ID or an older brother or sister. Part of it is the society, though. I don't know about Australia, but America has a society that basically values rebellious behavior. Partying, drinking teenagers are to be expected.
On the other hand, Italy has a drinking age of 16 where they are allowed to drink it but not buy it until 18. They have very few alcohol-related problems compared to the US. That might be a cultural thing though.

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Re: Legal age. - April 4th 2016, 07:30 PM

Honestly, I think it should either stay at 18 or be lowered to 17. I made this argument at school and I stand by it. A lot of people who frequently binge drink (not all, but certainly a lot of them) are underage. The thrill of doing something that's illegal. I know, at least where I am, binge drinking goes down dramatically once people hit about 19 because it's not as fun anymore. There's the excitement of being able to legally buy as much alcohol as you want, but after that wears off people do tend to drink less.
Don't get me wrong, alcohol is a problem, but I think it could be less so with a lower age limit.

In terms of violence, I don't think putting the age up will change anything. Even if there's a link between underage drinking and violence, putting the age up is only going to increase the amount of underage drinkers. Changing the legal age isn't what's needed. What is needed is tougher laws. People aren't strict enough and just sell alcohol without checking. In Scotland we operate a challenge 25 policy; if you look under 25, they are legally required to ID you if you buy any age restricted products, even lottery tickets where the legal age is 16. This kind of initiative needs to be stricter. There's a guy in my local Asda who just puts through my bottle of peach cider on a Friday without even looking at me, I can pass easily for 16/17. THAT is exactly the problem with alcohol.

The laws don't need to be changed, they need to be properly enforced with strict guidelines, harsh punishments, and regular checks.

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Re: Legal age. - April 4th 2016, 08:20 PM

Won't help jack shit. Prohibitions never solved anything. If anything it encourages stuff, cause of the "forbidden fruit" air it carries. Especially among young people, and if somebody wants to find a way, they will.
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Re: Legal age. - April 5th 2016, 01:26 AM

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somebody wants to find a way, they will.
I agree with this. Where I live the legal drinking age is 18 yet there are many people as young as 13 and 14 who often spend their time underage drinking. This is often because there are those who are over the legal age limit willing to purchase alcohol for them. Not only this but alcohol is often disguised in many forms and passed around from person to person to get to its destination.

All I see it doing is causing more people who are legally able to purchase alcohol for those who cannot. Raising the limit isn't a stone wall, just a small barrier in which young people will find a way to climb over, one way or another.

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