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'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 26th 2017, 09:31 AM

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The only thing 'white privilege' advocates accomplish is.... keeping the divide alive. Horrible people.

There are problems - REAL problems - that we all need to work on. These fools keep that from happening.

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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 26th 2017, 12:43 PM

I fucking hate the concept of "whitesplaining" and I'm not even white. It's just a cop out.
   
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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 26th 2017, 03:08 PM

I don't have the time to completely watch the video all the way through but I will go ahead and agree that the majority - if not all - of white people do experience white privilege in some way, in some degree at some point in their life.
The problem with white privilege right now is that with it being highly publicized, it negatively impacts the opportunities and equality for the minority population; ie. drowning out the issues with minorities (not to say it never has happened before the boom of media).
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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 26th 2017, 03:26 PM

This isn't a particularly educational video. For anybody tl;dr and want a summary of the video, it's goal was to pick and choose folks poorly explaining white privilege and "contradicting themselves" by asking on their views about prejudice without even defining what it is in the context of the question.

What's your real question of this debate? Are we debating if white privilege exists? Or whether believing it exists divides us? What is the question?


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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 26th 2017, 04:59 PM

Thank you for summarizing the video, Traci. I agree, what is the point of this thread? You, the OP,. don't even give a proper opinion and explanation to back up that opinion. For me, I'm torn when it comes to white privilege. There are some people out there who brags about their rights and flaunt it in front of minorities, but not every single white person is like that. If my interpretation is correct based on Traci's summary of the video, I'm guessing that the people who were speaking are of a minority race; and that would just make the whole thing incredibly racist. Again, saying it's not racist is actually white privilege.

Now, my statements might be controversial and now we could probably have a debate. But that's going off my post, not the original post and the video. Again, what is the purpose of this thread? What are we hoping to discuss here?

Personally, I think a lot of topics are worth debating but there are a few that should never be discussed and especially in today's world. Privilege of any sort is one of them because there is going to be at least one group of people who are going to lose their shit.
   
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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 26th 2017, 05:09 PM

Just saw the video. LOL at them admitting they're racist. No, YOU'RE racist. Don't drag other white people down with you.
   
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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 26th 2017, 08:45 PM

From the start I was very aware that it's quite easy to speak to lots of white people and lots of black people and simply pick and choose the respondents who portray white privilege in the way desired. I agree that to an extent it may add to the division, however ignoring it could also add to the division. By turning a blind eye to inequality, no matter how small or pointless it may seem, we risk taking the side of those with power already, which means that the struggles other people face carry on getting ignored. However, with topics like this you always have some people who agree and others who don't. Speaking as a white person who has never really faced any barriers as a result of my skin colour, whether that's explicit or implicit (i.e. lack of representation in the media etc), it's hard to have an opinion I can prove to others. It's tricky, and I know that a lot of black people I know would say white privilege has affected them, while others would, like the person in the video, call it a myth.


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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 27th 2017, 06:54 PM

I am unsure what the point of the post was? What are you trying to debate etc? If you are trying to debate the accuracy of White privilege (I.E if it exists) I would suggest that you look up Tim Wise on YouTube. If you type in Tim Wise White Privilege you will end up finding a pretty interesting video about the subject. Before I watched that video I didn't fully understand the concept.


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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 28th 2017, 11:18 AM

To put it short. I'm very individualistic about these kind of problems. Slavery was a huge dark page in American history, but this shouldn't give the non-Caucasian people the reason to treat Caucasian people with disrespect because what their forefathers might or might not have done to the non-Caucasian person's ancestors (Who might or might not have been a slave) and the concept of "white privilege" only tries to justify racial disrespect.

I havent had slaves (And I never will) so I shouldn't feel guilt about what my forefathers might or might not've done because thats not my responsibility (I wasnt even born yet around that time so why should I?)


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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 29th 2017, 10:23 PM

White privilege is just an overblown term used by progressives to further push identity politics. I have yet to see anyone actual properly defend the concept.


Here is a very simple statement that destroys the idea of white privilege: If whites are so privileged, and use their privilege to oppress other races, how come Asians surpass whites when it comes to education and income, even though Asians were a historically oppressed group like blacks?


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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - May 31st 2017, 06:15 AM

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Here is a very simple statement that destroys the idea of white privilege: If whites are so privileged, and use their privilege to oppress other races, how come Asians surpass whites when it comes to education and income, even though Asians were a historically oppressed group like blacks?
There's a term called intersectionality where it means there are many facets to life. White privilege is the privilege that white people have racially. Meaning someone can be white and poor or white and uneducated, but they still have the privilege to not be stopped by immigration or be shot by cops. A white person can be dirt poor homeless uneducated--what have you. They can seem the least privileged of all people. But they still hold white privilege because they are white. Does that explain white privilege better?


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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - June 2nd 2017, 05:17 AM

Christ, listening to Hillary read off a teleprompter makes me want to bash my head against a wall. And the white people who were speaking... Goddammit, this isn't that hard. Like I get that you're put on the spot, but come on, you've got better answers than that, Im sure.
But white privilege totally exists. Its institutionalized into the justice system. Its not always in your face, but its certainly in the statistics. Here's an easy example of how its true. So I smoke a fair amount of weed, right, but I never smoke weed thinking Ill get time over it if I get caught. However, while white and black people smoke weed at roughly the same rates, black people get arrested at four times the rate, and they often face far stiffer punishments than white people do. Is that a coincidence? No, that was the PURPOSE of the drug war. Nixon started the drug war to go after black people and liberal hippies. His aid literally SAID it. John Ehrlichman, Nixons aid, said that Nixon had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. Nixon knew he couldnt make it illegal to be black or liberal, so he illegalized weed and heroin to target and disrupt both communities. Ehrlichman SAID it. And guess what? We still have a drug war, and black people are still arrested for nonsense crimes at a higher rate.
So to me, thats an obvious example of white privilege. Maybe it isn't obvious to someone who doesnt smoke, but its a pretty common thought that goes through my head, that other people are risking their livelihoods far more than I am just to relax. I smoke weed on my front porch without a care in the world while my black friends worry about getting thrown in prison. White privilege. And that was just an easy example.


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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - June 3rd 2017, 03:11 AM

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I don't have the time to completely watch the video all the way through but I will go ahead and agree that the majority - if not all - of white people do experience white privilege in some way, in some degree at some point in their life.
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A dentist failing to give enough anaesthetic to someone in the middle of a procedure with the goal of inflicting more pain than usual on them, is a violent offense. Holy crap.
   
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Re: 'Whitesplaining' White Privilege - June 3rd 2017, 04:00 AM

^^^Yeah, that guy belongs in fuckin prison.


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