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Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 03:02 AM

There's probably a thread about this somewhere, but I made this one for the sole purpose of debating whether this kind of thing should be legal by the government.

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Speaking of song censorship...

A classmate of mine, who is from the US, said that down there they will sometimes bleep out the lines "imagine there's no heaven", "no hell below us" and "no religion too" from John Lennon's song Imagine. Have any of you guys noticed this? I couldn't believe it when he told me that. I think that's insane!
From www.Freemuse.org, a site dedicated to the uncensoring of music, gives us this information:
The day after the September 2001 terrorist attacks, Clear Channel program directors issued a list of "potentially offensive songs" that it suggested stations not play. Many reports referred to the list as a "ban" on the songs, which included all Rage Against The Machine songs, the Notorious B.I.G.'s "Juicy" (which includes the line "Time to get paid, blow up like the World Trade"), John Lennon's "Imagine," Metallica's "Seek and Destroy," AC/DC's "Safe in New York," Bobby Darin's "Mack the Knife," Peter, Paul and Mary's "Leaving on a Jet Plane," and Jerry Lee Lewis' "Great Balls of Fire," and "The Drifters' On Broadway." Clear Channel spokesperson Pam Taylor objected to the list being called a "ban," saying, ""This was an effort to help people be sensitive to the unthinkable environment. It's been somehow turned into some sort of evil attempt to control pop music, and that's absurd."
I don't think its right that you would censor anything. Period. Let people listen what they want to listen to, I think the people who put this together were wrong in their attempt to 'make the world a better place', or whatever the hell they were doing. RATM is one of my favorite bands SIMPLY BECAUSE they take a solid stand on political issues. I don't even like Zach de la Rocha's 'singing', and I really don't even like some of his views, but I respect him very much for taking that stand, and putting his beliefs out there.

I know that support for this will be generally negative, but I want to see exactly what's said about this.


EDIT: I found a list of all the songs they suggested not be played. Here's a link, its a bit lengthy... http://www.freemuse.org/sw21095.asp

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Re: Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 03:20 AM

It's completely up to a given radio station if they want to play a given song, but censoring the lyrics otherwise is outrageous. Rage Against The Machine has some of the most relevant and powerful political music of the last twenty years, and John Lennon's Imagine is a bold expression of the true meaning of communism (not the totalitarianism or tyranny we think of).

Music meant for private listening and entertainment should never, ever be censored. Radio music is a choice by the broadcasters, and if a store doesn't agree with the lyrics or messages of a given band, they can choose not to sell it, and lose money.


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Re: Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 02:06 PM

I totally agree. Censorship is wrong. Plain and simple. Except where it infringes on someone's rights, there is no reason why freedom of expression (song lyrics fall under this category) should be breached. I'm sure that this would not happen in Canada (where I live). If I'm wrong, please correct me, but after 1982 (when our current constitution was finalized) this would not be allowed.
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Re: Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 02:16 PM

It depends.
We put films with swearing as 12A or above in cinemas due to its target audience.

If the station will have many young listeners then YES they should be able to sensor swear words.

Generally speaking I like my Music uncensored
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Re: Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 02:27 PM

I don't see a problem with censoring out swear words on the radio. I mean they do it on the TV, whats the difference? I mean, I wouldn't agree with it if they did it on CDs in general, but we shouldn't have to turn the radio off just because kids are near.

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Re: Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 04:12 PM

I don't think thats the sort of censorship we're talking about...
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Re: Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 08:16 PM

They should not censor music. The artist writes their music to get across a certain purpose. When you censor it, you're playing a different song. If you don't agree with something their song says, then don't listen. Don't let your kids listen, whatever.

That's like me deciding to take out the "not" out of "They should not censor music" it changes the entire meaning.

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Re: Musical Censorship - June 3rd 2009, 10:06 PM

If it's for a store, especially one that sells to a younger audience, then censoring the music may be a reasonable idea or just don't sell it. For ones where people of all ages are marketed to (i.e. Walmart and the recent Green Day incident), they shouldn't censor it and their policy is rather silly. Put a warning on the CD, DVD, etc... and check for I.D.. That's all that should be needed.

For the radio, if it's a station geared towards a younger audience, then having a song with profanity shouldn't be censored, it shouldn't even be played in the first place.

Censoring music or T.V. or movies, etc..., I tend to not care because the artist presumably has allowed their products to be altered and censoring a few swear words isn't going to take away the meaning of the song, movie, etc... . If actual scenes or certain lyrics without profanity or pornography are censored, then that I'm not as accepting for because that may alter the meaning as well as the flow of the song, movie, etc... .
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