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Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 09:19 AM

Hi Everyone!!

I hope you're having a super fine day.


Bonny Eagle High School student Justin Denny was denied his diploma at a graduation ceremony on June 12th for 'fooling around' after his name was called.

What did he do?!

As he walked up on stage - he took a bow, blew a kiss to his family and pointed to his friends.

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Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss To Family - Education News Story - WMTW Portland

As I see it....
[And based on the available information] - denying Justin Denny his diploma was an over-reaction. [To put it mildly] Apparently though he WILL get it - so says the schools assistant administrator. And if that's true - great. Unfortunately - the 'moment' has forever been lost. It's kind of like a bride or groom showing up AFTER the wedding. [Don't you think?]

I was curious.... were there police officers at YOUR graduation ceremony? It makes me wonder just how 'tough and rough' this school is.

What's YOUR opinion on all of this?!

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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 01:29 PM

All of this seems to come down to the subjective interpretation of what misbehavior is. The school appears to be along the lines of bowing and blowing a kiss is misbehavior, whereas the family does not. All other students seemed to have received the same treatment. The school should just give the diploma because if they don't, then they'll continue to get publicity against them.

We had police at our school sometimes and a few other schools (i.e. one we went to go to to have a school party at) had its own security there.

I guess that all that was supposedly required was go up, get the diploma, shake hands, smile for some pictures then take your seat.
   
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 02:29 PM

I smell big lawsuit.


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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 03:15 PM

Are you kidding me? At my graduation people were doing flips and dances and shit.

Hell I did the worm across stage!

They're overreacting. If they don't apologize and give him the diploma they're going to have a very large issue on their hands.


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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 04:36 PM

From the graduations I've seen, its seems to be tradition to have a few people to make asses out of themselves. At my school one person did a backflip, and a couple others did dances...And of course we had the ceremonial beachball (4 of them).

But if the school was that strict, Mr. Denny should have been aware of that...
   
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 08:19 PM

I don't think this article displayed the entire situation. The way it is written makes it seem like it is leaning towards the kid, by saying "Just a bow/kiss." Maybe he did more? Even if not, the school isn't idiotic enough not to let the kid GRADUATE, they might just mail his diploma or something.


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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 08:33 PM

I agree with Alex, are we seeing the full story?

And yeah, there definitely were cops at our graduation, as well as ALL dances, sports games, and we had one officer that was required to be at school all during school hours or something like that.



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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 08:47 PM

We use to have some police officers walk around school on a daily basis. I'm not sure if It was an actually officer, but sure looked like it. My school sucked.


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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 17th 2009, 09:29 PM

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We use to have some police officers walk around school on a daily basis. I'm not sure if It was an actually officer, but sure looked like it. My school sucked.
My school has a cop too, but it's not like it's a bad school at all.




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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 19th 2009, 07:00 PM

Hi Craig
No we didn't have cops at your graduation, but we did have like 20 nuns and fathers there.
I think its dumb that the school did that, it was just a kiss... I've heard of worse stories that people have done in graduations.


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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 20th 2009, 05:07 AM

The administration made it clear that you are not to do anything distracting or anything not practiced in rehearsal. He broke the rules, so he doesn't deserve to get his diploma at graduation. He will get his diploma, but obviously not at graduation. This is a strict and traditional administration, so it sucks to be this kid, but he made a decision and now has to live with the consequences.
   
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 27th 2009, 03:50 PM

The woman who didn't give him the diploma should be fired. And then shot.
(Not really, but she is incredibly obnoxious.)
   
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 27th 2009, 05:59 PM

When I first heard this I thouht it was absolutely rediculous, but believeable my high school threatened to do the same thing if any of us acted up. There was also a case here a few years ago where some students were denied daplomas because their FAMILIES applauded them. Apparently the audience was told not to clap and since some people didn't listen it cost their childeren their daplomas. It just doesn't make sense to me.
   
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 28th 2009, 09:11 PM

what the hell? last year a sixth form leaver at my school whipped off his suit and went up to get his certificate thing in a ninja outfit.. all the teachers thought it was hilarious..!


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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 28th 2009, 09:33 PM

Bullshit, they over reacted real bad aha.
Yes there are cops at dances, games, and they have 3 that would stay in an office at the school.
   
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 29th 2009, 01:00 AM

I've seen the footage (the school is in the area, so they'll play it on the news) and it was really just a bow and a kiss. The only other point of contention is that he was wearing a colored cord as a member of an athletic team that all members of the team were wearing. The school had made the announcement that only honors students were supposed to have extra pieces to their regalia, but the team went to some teachers and asked if they could, and the teachers agreed.

If you ask me, the superintendent was trying to make an example of him, but it really just made things so much worse. The purpose of the contract was to prevent disruptions of the ceremony, and by denying him his diploma while he was on stage they were, themselves, disrupting the ceremony.
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 29th 2009, 06:25 AM

Distorted, I find your reaction to be over the top. Graduating can be such a liberating and happy moment in a kids' eyes and just because this kid bowed, (which is a sign of politeness first off) and blew his family a kiss does not in any way count to me as a distraction. It's not like it's something completely out of the ordinary. It's not like this kid went up on stage nude holding a football infront of his penis like some "She's all That" bit. He took a bow because it was his moment and showed his family gratitude. That to me, is in no way a distraction nor a means for discipline. I think for the most part a graduation ceremony should be a free for all with the exceptions of extreme actions like the one I just stated and the no-clap rule. I completely agree with what Imaginarybird said above me. By disrupting the ceremony to take away the diploma, the idiots themselves created their own distraction. The school definitely needs to cough up the diploma and a pretty good apology for this kid.
   
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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - June 29th 2009, 07:21 PM

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Before the school began handing out diplomas, some students pulled out beach balls. One student was forced to sit away from his classmates with staff while police escorted another student behind the stage."No arrests were made. The individual that was escorted off the stage was asked to leave the civic center. He was to the point where the deputy wanted to arrest the individual, but gave him several opportunities to settle down. Eventually, he took off his cap and gown and threw it at the deputy and walked out of the civic center," Cumberland County Sheriff's Department Deputy Chief Kevin Joyce said.The deputy returned to the crowd and took another beach ball away from the students, but Mary Denney said School Area District 6 Superintendent Suzanne Lukas was still upset."When she got up there and started speaking, they threw out a couple more balls and she turned around and said, 'More people may not be graduating today if this continues,'" Mary Denney said.
This woman apparently had a bunch of other kids thrown out too, also for completely ridiculous reasons. She shouldn't just apologize to one kid...she should apologize to the entire graduating class of 2009 for ruining their ceremony. The rules were there to prevent interruptions, but she ended up using the rules to cause interruptions.

And yes, it's not at all uncommon for police officers to be at school sanctioned events, or even at schools on a daily basis. I go to a rather small school now, so it's not required, but the school I used to go to had police officers and security guards there all the time. My junior high even had police officers there on several occasions.


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Re: Diploma Denied To Student Who Bowed, Blew Kiss to Family - July 3rd 2009, 03:10 AM

That's ridiculous, the entire situation. First of all, it's true: if your school is that strict, you should wise up and not do anything that could jeopardize your diploma. Just don't. Second, though, having strict rules like that in the first place is bull. I understand not wanting the students to run rampant, but hell, it's a graduation ceremony! Everyone is excited to be getting out--cut them a little slack for pete's sake!



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