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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 06:34 AM

This really makes me..angry. It should be considered a hate crime, and it's really sad too.


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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 09:52 AM

Hi Amelia!!

I hope you're having a super fine day!!

Yes indeed - that is a very tragic story.

What I find most interesting or amusing [Or whatever right word might be] about stories like this has to do with how some people can justify [In their own minds] doing something awful and horrible to someone because THEY see that someone as awful and horrible.

It's the ultimate display of human hypocrisy.

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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 11:30 AM

That makes me really angry. =/

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Pagan also noted the public remarks from a police investigator for the case that ‘people who lead this type of lifestyle need to be aware that this will happen’.
I honestly don't know how anybody can say that. It's just inhumane, it's ridiculous.
   
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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 11:47 AM

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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 12:12 PM

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You and I are part of this world and we're not being mean to anyone - are we?!

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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 04:25 PM

There are some horrible people in this world.
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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 05:17 PM

I have to say, the police's attitude is pretty amazing. Being gay, he should expect to be decapitated and incinerated! Of course! It's even more logical to say a member of the police forces should naturally expect to assassinated by opposition lobbyists seeing as he is a representative of the government. Now really....
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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 10:02 PM

I am curious if it was a homophobic attack. I mean, it probably was, it seems like good motive, if otherwise the guy was likable, at the same time, it might not have been (the article doesn't suggest any obvious links to the guy's sexuality. Sometimes people just murder people...). Either way, its a tragic death, and horrific act.

The police officer's comments are appaulling. With an attitude like that, the case is unlikely to be solved, homophobic attack or not. It also kinda publically justifies homophobic behaviour, and implies you probably could get away with it.
   
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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 10:24 PM

I find it strange that based on a 2004 statistics (couldn't find anymore reliable information) from the FBI, 15.7% of the crimes committed were from hatred against homosexuality, but 52.9% for racially motivated crimes, and yet I hear more about murders that could be against homosexuality than I do homicides against race. (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2004/section1.htm)

The article doesn't say if the teen was decapitated first or burned, because if he was decapitated first...then it wouldn't make much sense to burn a dead body. He probably was burned alive and THEN decapitated, if it was more of a hate crime (IMO).
   
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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 11:22 PM

What an unbelievable thing for that investigator to say. I cannot believe that he actually said something like that and thought that he would get away with it. These things will happen to you, if you're gay. Ummm okay? WHAT?!

Who the hell does he think he is? A gay guy deserves to be decapitated and dismembered because of his sexual orientation. Fair trade, really. Horrible.


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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 18th 2009, 11:28 PM

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I am curious if it was a homophobic attack. I mean, it probably was, it seems like good motive, if otherwise the guy was likable, at the same time, it might not have been (the article doesn't suggest any obvious links to the guy's sexuality. Sometimes people just murder people...). Either way, its a tragic death, and horrific act.

The police officer's comments are appaulling. With an attitude like that, the case is unlikely to be solved, homophobic attack or not. It also kinda publically justifies homophobic behaviour, and implies you probably could get away with it.
I do find it interesting that as soon as it is out that he was gay, it is instantly a hate crime. Just because it is a heterosexual person killing a homosexual person does not make it a hate crime. Same for crimes between races.

That being said, the whole thing is appalling whether it was a hate crime or not.
   
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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 19th 2009, 12:36 AM

How can such things happen? How could a human being have such hatred in their hearts?


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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 19th 2009, 01:00 AM

http://www.365gay.com/news/murder-su...n-was-a-woman/

Thought I'd share a follow up story linked on the page that probably no one clicked on.
It's still an awful thing to have happened, but maybe this article will calm down a few people with the whole police doing nothing thing. That guy was still an ass though, saying the kid deserved it... Maybe it was just one guy's opinion though.

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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 19th 2009, 09:22 AM

This would also happen in any Arabic nation and Kazikstan were gays are made to wear blue hats.
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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 19th 2009, 12:27 PM

"Pagan also noted the public remarks from a police investigator for the case that ‘people who lead this type of lifestyle need to be aware that this will happen’."

That's a horrible thing to say in light of such a horrific murder! What, all of the LGBT community should expect to be decapitated and burned by anyone they meet? Horrible. I think he should have to issue an apology to the family as well, that's a truly insensitive thing to say. You don't say to a rape victim's family "Well, you know, she was wearing a low-cut shirt that night. She should have expected it" It's wrong, hurtful, and uncalled for.



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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 20th 2009, 01:38 AM

I'm afraid that I can't really say anything that hasn't already been said.
This just isn't fair or right in any way.

I'm very sorry you had to endure such pain, Jorge.


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Re: Gay Teen Decapitated And Burned In Puerto Rico - November 20th 2009, 10:08 AM

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See I read that in a different way. It could be that he's saying that LGBT people need to be aware that this sort of thing will happen in a country with homophobic issues and that they need to take precautions to keep safer and be more cautious. Which is perfectly true.
I'm not going to condemn the police inspector for a statement with an ambiguous meaning.

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