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Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 2nd 2009, 10:01 PM

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The New York state Senate on Wednesday killed a bill that would have legalized same-sex marriage in the state, voting 38-24 against a measure that had the support of the state Assembly and Gov. David Paterson.
Supporters predicted a close vote going into the day's debate and said they would bring the measure back for "as many do-overs as is necessary to get us home," as Majority Leader Pedro Espada put it before the vote.
"There's never a good time for civil rights. There's never, ever, ever, ever a good time for civil rights. I know. I get that," said Sen. Tom Duane, a Manhattan Democrat who was the chamber's first openly gay member. "But the paradox is, it's always the time to be on the right side of history."
Only one senator spoke against the bill during Wednesday's debate. Sen. Ruben Diaz argued that the issue should be put to a statewide referendum and pointed out that 31 states have banned same-sex marriages in statewide votes.
Diaz, a Democrat and a Pentecostal minister from the Bronx, said many New York religious leaders opposed the bill and called on Republicans to join him in defending "traditional values."
"If we take it to the people, the people oppose it," he said.
But a Marist College poll released Wednesday found that 51 percent of New Yorkers questioned favored legalizing same-sex marriage, with 42 percent opposed. A June poll by Qunnipiac University poll reported a similar spread of 51 percent to 41 percent.
And Sen. Eric Adams, a Brooklyn Democrat, said that most of the 31 states Diaz cited as voting against same-sex marriage "at one time or another sold blacks into slavery."
"Because the majority is in one place does not mean they're in the right place," he said. "We're in the position right now where we have to lead the country to the right place."
Passage would have made New York the sixth U.S. state to legalize same-sex marriage and only the second, along with New Hampshire, to do so without a court's prodding.
Connecticut, Vermont, Massachusetts and Iowa also have legalized marriages between gay couples, but federal law bars recognition of those unions across state lines.



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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 3rd 2009, 12:24 AM

Eventually, yes they will. Practically all the opposition to homosexuality is religious in nature, and that type of offensive religion is slowly dying out.


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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 4th 2009, 06:10 AM

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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 4th 2009, 06:27 AM

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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 4th 2009, 01:37 PM

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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 5th 2009, 04:11 AM

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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 5th 2009, 06:44 AM

Guys, debate the subject please. Let's stay on topic.

And although I think it sucks, we shall live to fight another day in New York. True equal rights will become realized eventually, it just takes time.


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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 5th 2009, 07:49 AM

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Will the Usa Ever allow Gays and Lesbians to marry anyone they Choose?
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I think they will because it's been moving forward as opposed to backwards, however, I seriously doubt that whenever it is legal that it won't be opposed by some. So the laws may eventually allow it but the people will be divided as they are now. Unfortunately, laws change by what society demands or if some extra-ordinary event occurs and since society is more or less split in half about this, it's hard to get the ball rolling up over the mountain if half the people are preventing the ball.
   
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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 5th 2009, 11:24 AM

For the love of crap >_____< -sigh- I guess it'll have to take a bit longer for people to be more accepting/open-minded.


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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 7th 2009, 02:53 PM

The only thing New york did right recently.
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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 7th 2009, 06:19 PM

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Cute. Because its always right, in the 'land of the free' to openly oppress others
   
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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 7th 2009, 07:08 PM

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The only thing New york did right recently.
The term "land of the free" sounds oddly familiar with some country, I just cant place it right now. Oh wait, it's the US and it just so happens New York is within the US! I wonder what the means... .
   
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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 9th 2009, 04:30 PM

People do need to be accepting and opened minded.
That day will come, at least i hope.




   
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Re: Same-sex marriage bill voted down in New York Senate - December 9th 2009, 04:41 PM

It deeply disturbs me that prejudice and intolerance prevailed again. I had been tracking this issue in New York State all along, and when it passed the Assembly so easily I was very hopeful. Then, the voters of Maine displayed a total lack of empathy, and everything fell apart.


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