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Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 21st 2009, 02:28 PM

The funniest part of the AIG thing is that Obama became "outraged" by the AIG bonus when there was alot of publicity.

As if he doesn't know LOL. He signed the bill, he could of vetoed it LOL, powerful Democratic Senator said that the Treasury which is controlled by the White House administration told him to change the bill's clause to pervent legality problems LOL. So he changed it. Because AIG is allowed to have bonuses because of there contract formed in 2007.

"The president goes out and says this is not acceptable and then some backroom deal gets cut to let these things get paid out anyway," said Sen. Ron Wyden, (D., Ore.), author of an earlier, alternative pay amendment, told the Associated Press."
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“Career staff officials at the Treasury, Fed and Federal Reserve Bank of New York exchanged e-mail messages about the A.I.G. bonus program as early as late February, according to a person familiar with the matter. A.I.G. itself revealed the bonus plan in regulatory filings last September."
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Wake up President Obama isnt GOD! His approval rating was first 84 then it was 60 somthing now its 59 LOL. good job. Blame more at bush maybe you will be better. Or blame AIG for everything when u signed the bill and ordered the federal treasuy to get Dodd to change it.

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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 21st 2009, 02:41 PM

Bonus... tax payer money for this! What a shame.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 21st 2009, 05:41 PM

What a dick. Some things never change.

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As if he doesn't know LOL. He signed the bill, he could of vetoed it LOL, powerful Democratic Senator said that the Treasury which is controlled by the White House administration told him to change the bill's clause to pervent legality problems LOL. So he changed it. Because AIG is allowed to have bonuses because of there contract formed in 2007.
Can you explain this more thoroughly? I'm having trouble making sense of it.

Nobody ever blamed Bush for this AIG charlie-foxtrot.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 02:42 AM

Well, if you actually paid attention rather than jumped to conclusions, you would know that Obama did NOT approve this bonus. It was, in fact, an intentional loophole created by Chris Dodd (D-CT) in the last drafting of the bill when he slipped it in, and the wording was made out to be bland talk inside the bill, so that no one, not even other senators, would notice. This isn't the President's fault, nor is it the majority of Dems or Republicans.

Furthermore, the fact that Burnanke and the chairman of the Federal Reserve failed to reexamine the fine print on the bill does not make blame rest in Obama's lap.

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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 03:18 AM

Bush isn't to blame anymore its now obamas problem and he still isn't solving the crisis.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 04:19 AM

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Bush isn't to blame anymore its now obamas problem and he still isn't solving the crisis.
He is to blame... Solving the crisis? He's been in office for 2 months... You expect him to fix everything in 2 months after the 8 years of bullsh!t?
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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 08:27 AM

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Bush isn't to blame anymore its now obamas problem and he still isn't solving the crisis.
Jesus, I feel bad for Obama. People expect him to be like God, or the personification of all miracles, but he's just a man, he's only been in office for a couple of months, he can't magically wave his hand and cure the economy... It's just not that easy, he's doing the best he can probably, and anyone else who thinks they could have done a better job, should run for president then and see if they can do it.



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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 02:56 PM

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Bush isn't to blame anymore its now obamas problem and he still isn't solving the crisis.
There are two branches of government that need to work carefully on this, with an extent of approval from the Judicial, as well. A Democracy is not an instananeous government; things take time. Obama has been in office for two months; that's just not enough time to "fix" a crisis of this magnitude. Also, the position of President doesn't mobilize blame and shift it to the current occupant of the White House.

In fact, considering how much he's done so far, he should be praised for his work. His reversal of the most ridiculous, restrictive, and illogical Bush era policies have been brilliant, and so far have been done in a timely manner.

Obama, his administration, Congress, economic experts, and all related peersons have given an approximate timeline of the economic recovery. You should know that it's impossible to ressurect an economy in sixty days.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 05:34 PM

The big problem is that Obama basically tried to force everyone to sign a 1100 page bill, when no one even read the damn thing. This is what happens when you do that. You all expected it to be perfect?
   
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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 06:52 PM

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Well, if you actually paid attention rather than jumped to conclusions, you would know that Obama did NOT approve this bonus. It was, in fact, an intentional loophole created by Chris Dodd (D-CT) in the last drafting of the bill when he slipped it in, and the wording was made out to be bland talk inside the bill, so that no one, not even other senators, would notice. This isn't the President's fault, nor is it the majority of Dems or Republicans.

Furthermore, the fact that Burnanke and the chairman of the Federal Reserve failed to reexamine the fine print on the bill does not make blame rest in Obama's lap.

Do your reading next time.
Good Try! Obama signed it. That means he approved it. No Excuse is a good one.

I don't care if he didn't know. He could of created some sort of procedure that pervent anyone from sneaking 11 pages in a bill, which could of pervented this from happening.

Because of that he made a 165 million dollar mistake.

He made a big mistake just like any new home owner in the 2000's that didn't read the fine print or the contract and just signed it.
And Dodd sneaked one in because he told by the US treasury to do it. Which is controlled by the white house...

There is a difference between reading the news, and critical thinking.

PLUS, the Federal Reserve has really nothing to do with this. Its the US Treasury.
   
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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 25th 2009, 06:56 PM

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Good Try! Obama signed it. That means he approved it. No Excuse is a good one.

I don't care if he didn't know. He could of created some sort of procedure that pervent anyone from sneaking 11 pages in a bill, which could of pervented this from happening.

Because of that he made a 165 million dollar mistake.

There is a difference between reading the news, and critical thinking.
There's critical thinking, and then there's finding any excuse to blame someone you don't like LOL.

You don't know whether he did it intentionally LOL. Obviously since he seemed REALLY PISSED OFF when he learned about it, I'd say he didn't LOL.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 26th 2009, 02:51 AM

Obama is a complete flip-flopper. As soon as something looks bleak in the public eye, you can always rely on him to change his mind. His relations with people like Reverend Wright for example. He called this man his 'uncle' and had attended his radical sermons for 20 years... but as soon as the public disapproved, he dropped him like a hot potato.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 26th 2009, 03:55 AM

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Obama is a complete flip-flopper. As soon as something looks bleak in the public eye, you can always rely on him to change his mind. His relations with people like Reverend Wright for example. He called this man his 'uncle' and had attended his radical sermons for 20 years... but as soon as the public disapproved, he dropped him like a hot potato.
Which person isn't a flip flopper?
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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 26th 2009, 04:49 AM

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Obama just recently got into office. You expect him to fix all the shit in that short of a time? Maybe if there was only a fine layer of shit but there isn't, there's a bloody big pile of bloody shit.
   
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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 26th 2009, 08:42 PM

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Which person isn't a flip flopper?
GWB stuck to the path which he knew was right regardless of public disapproval. Obama just has no idea.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 26th 2009, 09:02 PM

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Good Try! Obama signed it. That means he approved it. No Excuse is a good one.

I don't care if he didn't know. He could of created some sort of procedure that pervent anyone from sneaking 11 pages in a bill, which could of pervented this from happening.

Because of that he made a 165 million dollar mistake.

He made a big mistake just like any new home owner in the 2000's that didn't read the fine print or the contract and just signed it.
And Dodd sneaked one in because he told by the US treasury to do it. Which is controlled by the white house...

There is a difference between reading the news, and critical thinking.
He actually would not have been able to create a preventative procedure, as Congress would have to approve of it. Furthermore, Dodd is well known for being outside the range of agreement from many Democrats and Republicans, and there's nothing to say that his actions weren't motivated by external interest groups (aka lobbying). He also cannot simply have this done by telling the treasury to do it; the White House doesn't control treasury, which needs to have actions approved in executive and legislative branches.

Also, your lack of grammatical skill really bothers me.


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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 26th 2009, 10:57 PM

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GWB stuck to the path which he knew was right regardless of public disapproval. Obama just has no idea.
GWB changed path on Iraq war by allowing for a time line, changed tactics in Iraq, etc. Said the WMD's were found, then recanted. Here's more http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in646142.shtml
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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 27th 2009, 06:25 PM

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He actually would not have been able to create a preventative procedure, as Congress would have to approve of it. Furthermore, Dodd is well known for being outside the range of agreement from many Democrats and Republicans, and there's nothing to say that his actions weren't motivated by external interest groups (aka lobbying). He also cannot simply have this done by telling the treasury to do it; the White House doesn't control treasury, which needs to have actions approved in executive and legislative branches.

Also, your lack of grammatical skill really bothers me.

The White House controls the treasury department. A Secretary is a Cabinet member of the executive branch(which is controlled by the President). The Executive Branch does not require any votes, only the president orders.

And Obama isn't motivated by external interest groups? Just google Obama and Rezko. Thats just one of his lobbist, from his political campaigns.

Rezko is a felon who is connected to many corrupted politicians. Like the former Governor of Illinois. Rezko funded alot of low-income homes in Obama's programs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0laT8
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The video is about Obama's new house he bought from Rezko's house, and how obama gave millions to Rezko.

Your narrow minded ignorance is starting to bother me.

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Re: Obama Approved Bonus. Then Tries to Block it... Lies of a President - March 27th 2009, 06:33 PM

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Obama is a complete flip-flopper. As soon as something looks bleak in the public eye, you can always rely on him to change his mind. His relations with people like Reverend Wright for example. He called this man his 'uncle' and had attended his radical sermons for 20 years... but as soon as the public disapproved, he dropped him like a hot potato.

Yep he was also his "Spiritual Advisor", I wonder what is going on in Obama's mind?

Is he a racist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4WMq...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQWuQVE6sw

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Yep he was also his "Spiritual Advisor", I wonder what is going on in Obama's mind?

Is he a racist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4WMq...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQWuQVE6sw

Or is he just a "flip flopper"?
I just think he's too new. So he has no idea what positions to take on issue, he doesn't consider cause and effect... thus, he just goes with whatever the public doesn't get outraged at.


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