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Question How to tell? - January 27th 2013, 05:01 AM

Well, recently, I have changed my beliefs, after weeks of debate. I have decided that there most likely is not a god, but there just might be, MAYBE. I really don't think there is one though. So I went from being Lutheran-Christian to Agnostic.
As a young child, I saw myself as a baptist only because it was what I was taught. Later, I was exposed to Lutheran beliefs, and so I changed to Lutheran. The only reason I stuck with Christianity is because I wanted to please my family. I'm done with that... I'm not dropping it to rebel or anything, just because I don't feel like I can truly believe it anymore. I feel like I was tricked as a child, I was too gullible. So now, I'm Agnostic c: And I'm glad about my decision.
I just don't know if I should tell my family or not. I can't easily stop attending church. In fact, I have to go tomorrow. I think I should allow them to know, but at the same time, I feel I shouldn't. Help me? Pleaseeee?
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 27th 2013, 04:47 PM

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Well, recently, I have changed my beliefs, after weeks of debate. I have decided that there most likely is not a god, but there just might be, MAYBE. I really don't think there is one though. So I went from being Lutheran-Christian to Agnostic.
As a young child, I saw myself as a baptist only because it was what I was taught. Later, I was exposed to Lutheran beliefs, and so I changed to Lutheran. The only reason I stuck with Christianity is because I wanted to please my family. I'm done with that... I'm not dropping it to rebel or anything, just because I don't feel like I can truly believe it anymore. I feel like I was tricked as a child, I was too gullible. So now, I'm Agnostic c: And I'm glad about my decision.
I just don't know if I should tell my family or not. I can't easily stop attending church. In fact, I have to go tomorrow. I think I should allow them to know, but at the same time, I feel I shouldn't. Help me? Pleaseeee?
Are or were your parents aware of your struggle or did you make this decision independently without any overt struggle?


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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 01:27 AM

My parents were not aware, but I did struggle for a week over it. But I made the decision myself.
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 03:12 AM

I felt like the Christianity at my high school was highly hypocritical. I understand the sentiment of you being tricked, but if you find a church that you see truly practicing what is laid out in the Bible, you will see what real love for another human is all about. I hope you get to experience this.
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 03:15 AM

I think that some things in the bible were real, but for the most, I think it's mainly bullshit lies.
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 03:15 AM

Like what part?
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 03:37 AM

Too much just seems unrealistic...
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 03:43 AM

I understand what you are saying, but that is not all the worth that the Bible holds. I certainly can't prove everything in the Bible, but because of what it has taught me and the validity in that that I have applied to my life, it gives me supreme confidence that it is accurate! I struggled with that same thing for a while in high school!
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 04:30 AM

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My parents were not aware, but I did struggle for a week over it. But I made the decision myself.
While I commend you for coming to your own decision, I think it'd be wise of you to research into this more. Read both sides to Christianity. Read some apologetics, and read about some questions you have regarding verses you think are stupid (use Google). But, also, read into the agnostic view of things.

Coming from a Weak Atheistic standpoint, I recommend you spend more than a weak on this. For many people this takes several years. I understand where you're coming from, believe me, I do. Just do more research on it and don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. I don't think it's a great idea to jump ship with your beliefs in just a week.

If you disregard my advice, then I'd wait before telling your parents before you have a more grounded argument for why you believe what you do, assuming your parents are zealous conservative Christians, otherwise just go ahead and tell them.


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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 04:32 AM

How do you think your parents will react? How sure are you of your new view point?

I generally think that being open and honest is the best thing to do. However, you know yourself and your parents best.
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 04:36 AM

Being honest is always the best thing you can do, and they should be able to accept it in their heart but since you heart is unsettled now it will probably be shifted again.
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 28th 2013, 08:58 PM

I've been thinking about my belief in god for more than a week, actually probably for about three and a half months. But I started looking more in depth to the agnostic thing here recently is what I've meant. But I've been
   
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Re: How to tell? - January 29th 2013, 11:47 AM

I'm not sure there's much truth to be found in agnosticism. And I wouldn't say much of anything in the bible is "bullshit lies." Revelation was either a secret code or the ramblings of a madman. The gospels present a compelling example of a virtuous life and, no doubt, did much to discourage crime and advance civilization. I tend to think of the Old Testament as a fear-mongering, carefully crafted document intended to keep the masses in line. But there are worthy parts to the OT as well: Proverbs, Psalms, Exodus, Job, etc.



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Re: How to tell? - January 29th 2013, 09:34 PM

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I'm not sure there's much truth to be found in agnosticism. And I wouldn't say much of anything in the bible is "bullshit lies." Revelation was either a secret code or the ramblings of a madman. The gospels present a compelling example of a virtuous life and, no doubt, did much to discourage crime and advance civilization. I tend to think of the Old Testament as a fear-mongering, carefully crafted document intended to keep the masses in line. But there are worthy parts to the OT as well: Proverbs, Psalms, Exodus, Job, etc.
A man told people to hate their family. A man told people that if they didn't leave everything they love, that they aren't worth of him. A man told people that unless you believe in him, you will be destroyed. A man told people that women aren't allowed to speak. So on and so forth, there isn't much in the new testament that is commendable.


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Re: How to tell? - January 29th 2013, 09:35 PM

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I've been thinking about my belief in god for more than a week, actually probably for about three and a half months. But I started looking more in depth to the agnostic thing here recently is what I've meant. But I've been
If you feel you can defend your belief, then tell them. If you can't, don't bring it up. Religion is something personal.


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