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View Poll Results: What do you believe about your religious text?
Interesting historical document 0 0%
Good Fables we should use 1 10.00%
Anciet Fairy Tales we should ignore 1 10.00%
Holy Book that fell out of Heaven 0 0%
God breathed word penned by humans throughout history 6 60.00%
Do not believe in/not have a holy text 2 20.00%
A personal holy text or something akin 0 0%
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Religous Text - December 13th 2010, 07:23 PM

How do you believe in your (or the main cultural text of your area) religious text? (Bible, Koran, or others. This is for your OWN personal religious text, not anyone else in particular.)

Is it an interesting historical document with a religious spin on it?

A good fable that is generally used to make us moral people?

An ancient fairy tale that should be completely ignored by modern society?

A holy book that fell out of heaven prefect in form?

Is it a God breathed word penned by humans throughout history and collaborated later?

Do you not believe in/not have a holy text?

Do you have your OWN holy text or something alike ("Reality is holy text", "I am prophet of God", etc.)

Please write and explain why you chose that, and what holy text in general were you talking about?


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Re: Religous Text - December 13th 2010, 11:18 PM

Does Mill's Utilitarianism count?


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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 12:01 AM

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Does Mill's Utilitarianism count?
lol yes :P anything that you base your morals and your life veiws from.

However, if anyone says their's religous text is Twilight, I will facepalm so hard...


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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 12:14 AM

I believe that the Bible is basically like one big story full of some things that are true, and some things that are false. That being said, I'm not sure if the bible could be considered the book I follow, because I'm kind of an Agnostic theist, although I think the Bible can be followed in order to help one become a better person, but not everything in it should be taken seriously.





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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 12:22 AM

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However, if anyone says their's religous text is Twilight, I will facepalm so hard...
Wait, that isn't normal?



Seriously though, I'm not really sure. I have a hard time believing the Bible because of the whole thing where it was written by a bunch of fallible men and then translated and copied and printed by even more. Seems about as unreliable a source as one can get. And I guess I haven't really found any philosophical texts I really agree with yet.


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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 12:26 AM

God breathed Word penned by humans throughout history.

^ That is my vote and I believe it 100%.
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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 12:40 AM

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God breathed Word penned by humans throughout history.

^ That is my vote and I believe it 100%.
ditto! Although there are SOME parts we need to consider in certain contexts before we start reading them...

Leviticus and Deuteronomy comes to mind...


"One of the things I regret the most of being able to imagine anything,
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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 02:35 AM

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ditto! Although there are SOME parts we need to consider in certain contexts before we start reading them...

Leviticus and Deuteronomy comes to mind...
Well, Leviticus and Deuteronomy were full of Old Testament Laws and they no longer apply to us because Jesus came and died on the cross for our sins.

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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 03:38 AM

I don't have a text that I follow, other than the modern legal law, which I don't consider a holy text but if someone wants to, fine by me.

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Well, Leviticus and Deuteronomy were full of Old Testament Laws and they no longer apply to us because Jesus came and died on the cross for our sins.
That's odd, I recall this:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17-19)


Oddly enough, the speaker in this passage is Jesus. There are a multitude of passages refuting what you said and there are probably some that support what you said.

Before you refute this though, isn't it odd that in debates involving homosexuality, so many christians including many on these forums, love to cite Leviticus? If it no longer applies, why are so many citing such passages? Oddly enough, most of them actually disregard the rest of Leviticus (I think). Why is this?


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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 04:37 AM

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Well, Leviticus and Deuteronomy were full of Old Testament Laws and they no longer apply to us because Jesus came and died on the cross for our sins.
I know this Kitty, I was just making a point on how alot of uneducated Christains will quote things from the bible, such as the Leviticus passage on homosexuality, and the Matthew passage quoted above, out of context and not know how to inturpret it correctly.

And iI would be slightly weirded out if someone uses the legal law as a holy text to be honest. :P I was more looking along the lines of internalizing moral codes and beliefs rather then a strict displinary system. However, The definition of "Holy Text" can be as broad as you want it to be. I'm open for ideas

Other then Twilight


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Re: Religous Text - December 14th 2010, 05:47 AM

Philosophically, I tend to agree with Pete Singer the most. But he has no single, quintessential text.

I guess the text I connect with the most is The Stranger - Albert Camus. Pretty much anything by Camus (especially the Myth of Sisyphus) I have been able to identify with.


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