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Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 01:28 AM

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 02:09 AM

This is one of those abstract questions which is rather difficult to answer. The human race has a LONGGGG history of having these sorts of attitudes about certain body parts. There are some people I know who won't even talk about a guy's nipples! Personally I find it completely okay to talk about your body, even if it is a 'taboo' kind of thing.
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 02:25 AM

In what way?

I think this sometimes too, like why can men go topless but women can't (in a lot of places)


   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 02:31 AM

Exactly. Us people have these certain attitudes about what is and isn't appropriate. However, I can find little logical reason for it. A breast or a penis or someone's testicles are just as natural of a body part as someone's nose, so why do we have objections to seeing or even talking about these things? These are questions that I wonder about but I don't think there is any real way to answer.
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 02:33 AM

I don’t think there inappropriate.

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 02:42 AM

I don't really like the fact that we have those attitudes. Personally, I wish that I felt okay with people seeing me naked, because morally I find it okay...confusing I know. I probably make zero sense.
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 05:56 AM

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I think this sometimes too, like why can men go topless but women can't (in a lot of places)
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. I have a lot of time to think about this kind of stuff on my hands while guarding lap swim.


   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 07:40 AM

I think that the breasts are considered taboo because they are erogenous zones and, as such, are highly linked with sex. Since sex is considered to be such a taboo subject, so are breasts. The same for genitalia and some other erogenous zones.

Sex is so taboo, in America atleast, because of our country's roots in extremely conservative religions who were persecuted in their home country, so came here for a new start.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 08:24 AM

yeah can't women get like arrested for being topless in some places, but it's fine for men? it's a little unfair.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 08:53 AM

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yeah can't women get like arrested for being topless in some places, but it's fine for men? it's a little unfair.
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 08:58 AM

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Especially when the men being topless has more boobs than the women...


haha next time i decide to go topless somewhere i'll use that excuse.

not that i plan on walking round topless anytime soon, though..


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 09:07 AM

They are not really inappropriate. Society has just made them that way.
It's also a matter of personal opinion.
If some girls were walking around topless I wouldn't really care.
I myself would not be able to do that.
But just because we have some extra volume and dimension to our chest unlike men, we are unable to do it. (except on nude beaches, etc.)
So really it's not fair.
It's mostly girls have been told to cover up that area for so long it's just how things are.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 09:07 AM

It probably has something to do with my hypothesis that anything on the human body that's dangly is inappropriate.


   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 09:12 AM

A man would get arrested for walking around showing off his... manhood, I guess I'll call it. So in my opinion it's the same thing for women.
If a man can't show off his manly parts, a woman shouldn't be able to show off her... womanly parts.





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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 09:15 AM

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 02:02 PM

This really is an interesting but confusing question, so good thread D;

As people have said though.. Oh, nevermind. I have no idea :P


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 04:12 PM

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They are not really inappropriate. Society has just made them that way.
It's also a matter of personal opinion.
If some girls were walking around topless I wouldn't really care.
I myself would not be able to do that.
But just because we have some extra volume and dimension to our chest unlike men, we are unable to do it. (except on nude beaches, etc.)
So really it's not fair.
It's mostly girls have been told to cover up that area for so long it's just how things are.
That's exactly true. Society has conditioned us to think in these certain ways, for the most part. And I am modest about being nude like a lot of people are, but I wish that we weren't embaressed over completely natural body parts.
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 10th 2010, 04:14 PM

Well, these things aren't allowed due to taboos surrounding sex. However in many parts of the world female breasts are acceptable because people consider them as feeding implements, not genitalia. I sometimes aonder if this doesn't say a lot about western culture but ah well...
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 09:52 AM

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Exactly. Us people have these certain attitudes about what is and isn't appropriate. However, I can find little logical reason for it. A breast or a penis or someone's testicles are just as natural of a body part as someone's nose, so why do we have objections to seeing or even talking about these things? These are questions that I wonder about but I don't think there is any real way to answer.
Excuse my language here, but its because the government is a dumb f*** that loves to control people. Censorship is one of the many ways the government does so.

If people were exposed to the naked body from children, seeing those parts wouldn't be so desired and it wouldn't be percieved as sluttiness.
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 12:17 PM

Where I live it usedto be illegal for women to be topless. Then there was a big thing about it and suddenly it was legal. But no women actually walk around topless. I guess it was more that they wanted the right.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 12:21 PM

In cirtain places, it is not illegal to go topless as a woman. As long as its hot and you're sun bathing/etc etc.

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 01:50 PM

Social conditioning, mostly. Sadly, we're likely stuck with this stigma for a long time.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 06:37 PM

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Excuse my language here, but its because the government is a dumb f*** that loves to control people. Censorship is one of the many ways the government does so.

If people were exposed to the naked body from children, seeing those parts wouldn't be so desired and it wouldn't be percieved as sluttiness.
What? You really think it's the government's fault? In France there are no laws against showing breasts, but it's still frowned upon. If a hairy middle-aged man went shopping in a towel, what would people think? It's still legal though.
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 06:41 PM

Because they can't walk down the street without being oogled at. They are more "out there" than a guys flat chest. Boobs giggle in the wind as well, lol.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 06:47 PM

honestly ? i think if girls suddenly started walking around town flashing thier boobs off it would be a bit odd some things are ment to be covered up and boobs are one of them, i would never walk round town flashing my boobs, its just not normal.
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 07:05 PM

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 09:19 PM

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Exactly. Just some things aren't ment to be done in public, no matter how much people want to say that it's natural.
Why? What non-cultural reason can you give for this to be the case, assuming weather warm enough to allow nudity? For genitals I can see some reason; cleanliness, if nothing else. But there's no reason for male chests to be acceptable and female chests to be unacceptable.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 09:30 PM

In my state (or city, at least) it is actually legal for women to be topless as long as they arent involved in any sexual or suggestive activity at the same time (i.e. making out with another person while topless would get you in trouble, etc)


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 10:15 PM

If however there was no taboo around boobs they'd be much less held in high regard; and probably the excitement around them during sex would be a lot less...



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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 15th 2010, 10:34 PM

This sounds silly but all I keep thinking is...
Eve decided she didnt want Adam to see them either anymore...
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 12:37 AM

This thread progressed a lot today

Yes, it is social conditioning. The government is not so much responsible. This stuff has roots that appeared before we were even born! These attitudes will probably always exist for the most part, but American attitudes about modesty are NOT universal. While most areas I'm pretty sure don't allow the displaying of...genitals , there are some countries which allow even females to be topless (meaning it is considered acceptable).
   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 12:54 AM

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 04:50 PM

One thing I noticed was that people are saying "It's natural" and all that, but some people are saying that they would never walk around with their breasts exposed 'n stuff. That's why my question is WHY is that the case. I'm wondering what happened in society to make such a thing so


   
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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 04:55 PM

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What? You really think it's the government's fault? In France there are no laws against showing breasts, but it's still frowned upon. If a hairy middle-aged man went shopping in a towel, what would people think? It's still legal though.
Government is a general term, and yes it is the government's fault. It's not about law really but about a control freak trying to make other people bend to their will. Over time these things pass onto people and their children, thus making it seem people naturally are against it.

If there is a group leader, there is some type of influence by them. People's social life evolved based on politics, even in the most primitive aspects of it - as far as time can date back there has always been a king, queen or leader.

We wore clothes to protect ourselves from weather, not for dignity.

As for why people choose to wear clothes to cover their parts now, is a rub off from past generations of being forced to do so (by either a law or social pressure) - in our generation it appears that wearing clothes for dignity is now a common.

Some might disagree with me, but I do study in this field for a long time and humans choices can be affected so easily based off of their social lives.
It's all about influence, and the ones we are influenced by the most are people who stand out aka leaders.

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 05:22 PM

Actually in Greece, the body was once seen as beautiful especially the feminine one, thus the statues and revealing art. it's just that as religion throws off this as beauty, it's sen more as sin. for an artist it is completely normal. For others it's not. It all really depends on the culture and time.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 05:23 PM

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One thing I noticed was that people are saying "It's natural" and all that, but some people are saying that they would never walk around with their breasts exposed 'n stuff. That's why my question is WHY is that the case. I'm wondering what happened in society to make such a thing so
Well you'd get kind of cold walking out there naked.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 05:24 PM

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yeah can't women get like arrested for being topless in some places, but it's fine for men? it's a little unfair.
I've never really agreed with people when they say that tbh. Men's bodies are obviously different to women's bodies, so it's not really unfair.


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 16th 2010, 05:33 PM

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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 17th 2010, 05:28 AM

Many volumes could be written on this subject. I'm sure it has a lot to do with religion, specifically the rules and laws that religions have...which usually stem from practical living at that particular faith's budding period. So probably ye olde pragmatism blown out of proportion with a healthy changed perspective. Then we have the herd mentality that humans hold so dear. I'm sure that if religion is involved (and it totally has to be) somebody got power mad somewhere along the line too...and probably a little crazy and that has something to do with it?

For the record though, I do like it the way it is. Seeing boobs is still kind of a privilege, which makes it that much more fun. Who couldn't use a little more fun in their life?


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Re: Why are boobs inappropriate? - January 17th 2010, 06:06 AM

Yes, I'm sure it probably has a LOT to do with religion.

@* Luke *: These are natural body parts that we're talking about. But yet, people still have the tendency to not want to show them in public. The reason is that we have been conditioned to think that way. Why? Well, there are a number of factors, religion being one of them. The media probably another, and more still absolute myths about sex that make it undesirable and to some people even morally wrong. That's about the best answer that any of us can give you, I think. All in all, what you want to be comfortable with and what you think is okay is your choice. If you feel completely fine being totally nude in a locker room, then that's cool. If you don't feel comfortable being nude in front of anyone except your doctor, that's also fine. It really depends how you were brought up and what influences you have been exposed to. Personally, I am VERY modest and don't let anyone see me naked except my doctor. Just some clothes off is fine, but when my underwear is down, nobody is allowed to look. I kind of wish that I wasn't like this, because there is little reason for it. I feel like I shouldn't be worried about displaying part of my body that's completely natural.

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