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how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 08:00 PM

I feel like something must be wrong with me but the whole pregnancy thing isn't like I feel anything. I've never felt anything. First time I didn't want it because it was more like I didn't want to look out of shape my mom took me to the clinic and I just remember it being done so fast and easy. I realize pregnancy isn't for me this time. I had an abortion because I had decided to bleach my mom's rug and through all the dog's toys. And throw her mirror etc away. Because she decided to tell a whole bunch of bullshit lies to the neighbors. I realized I couldn't live with that bitch and that she could rot in hell. Anyway I didn't care too much like it wasn't emotionally hard and physically I felt like it was hard the second time only because I was further along. But I don't see why it's a hard decision. I feel like it's been helpful surely... Anyone else? klike how is it hard to go through to me if anything they were learning experiences?
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 09:04 PM

I think it depends on the person. Maybe some people, like you, don't really think about it too much while other women might already consider the baby their child, and they don't want to kill what could potentially be their little kid.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 09:16 PM

If my future gf lost our kid, i wouldent be so upset. Just get on with things you know?


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 09:31 PM

I have no idea what bleaching a rug, dog toys, and your mother being a bitch has to do with getting an abortion, but ok...

It depends on the person. It's hard for some people, not so hard for others.




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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 09:38 PM

In my opinion, the actual "yes/no" decision isn't what is difficult. Most people know deep down whether or not they should keep the baby.

It's the accompanying emotions which cause the distress and therefore make it a difficult choice. Most people who know they are likely to feel these emotions are able to look ahead to the future and can imagine feeling that way. They then question whether or not they are making the right decision because they're uncertain as to whether they will be able to live with the emotions (e.g. guilt, regret).




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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 10:34 PM

choosing to have an abortion or to not have an abortion isn't really all that hard. It's dealing with your choice afterwards that can be hard and that is what makes people hesitate to make the choice. For me because I was so young I thought abortion would be my best option but I just wanted a baby and could picture myself as a mom and I just new that however hard it would be for me to keep it I really wanted to try. You don't really have to feel anything. I think peoples decisions are more based on what they believe in than what they feel.


   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 10:38 PM

As someone who has lost two babies to miscarriage, I personally could never have an abortion. It's too emotionally painful for me and I know that I'd have a lot of support and I would be able to raise a baby. Granted, I don't particularly want a baby right now, I know that if I was to get pregnant, I would keep it.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 10:59 PM

well to me I actually wanted the second pregnancy at first but it was when I moved out of my mom's. I realized I was better off without a child. To me it's like as long as I have my life and can have children later I don't mind really aborting. It's like I kind of felt this time I'll get my chance when I want to.
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 28th 2011, 11:05 PM

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well to me I actually wanted the second pregnancy at first but it was when I moved out of my mom's. I realized I was better off without a child. To me it's like as long as I have my life and can have children later I don't mind really aborting. It's like I kind of felt this time I'll get my chance when I want to.
That does make sense. You do still have time to have a kid later on. For some reason I personally want to be a young mom and a young grandma and have a fair bit of kids one day. I meant to wait till about 20 ish originally but when I got pregnant I just thought well why not start now. I am still happy with my choice


   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 11:35 AM

lol me too I've always wanted to be a young I plan to have a baby before 28 easily...
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 02:22 PM

For me, it's not the 'yes/no' decision that's difficult. It's living with the choices later on. However, I've never had an abortion. I, unfortunately, lost two children due to miscarriage. One when I was 16, and the second time I was 20. For some, it's easy and for others, not so much.

But, keep in mind, that if you continue to have abortions, it may hurt your chances of becoming a parent later on. The more abortions you have, those chances go down.











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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 03:32 PM

Hey there!

As Zelophobia said, be careful on the number of abortions you have if you plan to have children.

But abortion is different for each person. I couldn't even tell you if I would have one done because I have never been put in the situation. Some people feel that their religion will guide them while others do not. Some people believe they are ready for a baby, while others do not.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 03:36 PM

I think if I were female it would be a hard choice, I imagine it like this:

You are getting a puppy soon. Sadly you for some reason cannot raise this puppy sucessfully, do you want to get the puppy anyway, or tell the petstore to kill the animal?

Morally, for some it's tough. Sure, it's a dog/fetus and not a "true" human yet, but at the same time it was the opprotunity and dream of raising a child. You were excited for that puppy until you realized you just can't raise it. That's my two cents anyway, and I'm sympathetic with women who abort, be it out of necessity, or a very tough choice.

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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 05:29 PM

This can be a touchy subject; my view on abortion is this.

If you had unprotected sex or did something stupid when you were young and got yourself pregnant, or you can't financially handle a baby, I would personally go through with the pregnancy and then give the child up for adoption, that way you wouldn't be denying a baby the right to live because of whatever situation you're in.

On the other hand, if the mother's life was somehow in danger because of the pregnancy or was on some kind of medication that she couldn't be taken off of that would cause the baby or mother harm, then in this case an abortion would probably be neccessary. If I was ever in that situation it would be so difficult for me; I love children and want to be a mommy one day, and if I had to get rid of my child I'd probably have a breakdown. But as others have already said, it depends on the person and their views.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 06:55 PM

Like Haru said - in my opinion, the only instance in which abortion is acceptable is if the pregnancy would cause harm to the mother or baby. In some cases, if the pregnancy was accidental, (eg, by rape) then I wouldn't be too harsh on them.

However, if it's because you had unprotected sex, or even if the condom broke, then it's your own fault, and I personally believe that it would be best to go through with the pregnancy long term and then put the child up for adoption if need be.



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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 07:21 PM

well, its technically killing a child, and in most countries, killing is frowned upon by the establishment.
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 09:22 PM

I don't really care that much whether it was considered killing or not maybe because I never was the abortionist. I wasn't even there the second time. To me my role in it was just to decide whether I wanted a baby or not. And who to go to. Not like any three option I'd actually do anything. Also I guess that's where I disconnect. Because I'm not really scared of death death happens it's apart of life to me so yea.........

also several abortions if done correctly do not affect fertility.

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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 29th 2011, 09:36 PM

Its not the yes/no decision that makes it difficult, the difficult part of an abortion is why the mother is chosing the opition. Most of the time the mother would like to have the child but cannot because of the costs the child comes with and or the child would not be in a safe or good enviornment. Also, adoption could be an answer but some mothers just can't bear to see their child being given to somebody else because of the misfourtunate conditions.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 01:49 AM

that's understandable that women are different.
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 04:27 PM

abortion is NOT birth control! Please get on some. You're 17 and have had 2... I don't know if you realize this, but you've "killed" 2 babies so far. PLEASE get on BIRTH CONTROL and start saving lives!

There is something wrong with you in the fact that you didn't learn to either not have sex, or get on birth control...
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 05:24 PM

well believe it or not if I did 'kill' them I'd be pretty proud because that would mean I'm an abortion doctor at 18 starting at 16. Talk about success. Too bad it's not true...

also yea I used bc both times. So please start talking about something you know about. It may not make you look in a good light.

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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 05:37 PM

Says your 17, and you give you absolutely NO background...
and you decided to have your babies killed.... sorry... I'll correct myself.

As a mother, and a pregnant woman, I couldn't have gone through 1 let alone 2.
I don't believe for a minute you were on BC both times. If you were, my bad.

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NOW I would never tell a women to get an abortion and I would try to convince them not to, but some people just aren't cut out to be parents.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 05:40 PM

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also yea I used bc both times. So please start talking about something you know about. It may not make you look in a good light.
What birth control did you use? the pill?

the pill is 99% effective. Obviously you must have skipped a pill or two to get pregnant twice.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 06:19 PM

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abortion is NOT birth control! Please get on some. You're 17 and have had 2... I don't know if you realize this, but you've "killed" 2 babies so far. PLEASE get on BIRTH CONTROL and start saving lives!

There is something wrong with you in the fact that you didn't learn to either not have sex, or get on birth control...
Look, I know abortion is touchy subject, and I'm against it as well, but we need to try to keep things as civil as possible here, and saying there's something wrong with her could be upsetting.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 07:02 PM

Yeah, try to stay civil guys. The OP asked a question but she didn't ask to be yelled at for her decisions whether we agree with them or not.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 08:55 PM

I agree. Let's stay on topic. The OP asked a question. She did not asked to get attacked by other users. If this continues to get out of hand, I'll have to close the thread.











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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 09:13 PM

that just means you don't have the balls to the right thing no matter what. And I'm 18 not 17. You probably are the type to get all choked by your emotions I don't deal with that shit. To me emotions can be irrational a good example is you. Glad I don't deal with that.... And ne I've always taken my bcp everyday since 15
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 09:15 PM

Again, please stay ON topic. I wasn't just saying that to the people who were attacking you, but to you as well. If this continues on, I will close the thread since now it's becoming a debate, instead of asking for others opinions.











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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 09:18 PM

I wasn't attacking. I just had a class on birth control and all about different contraceptives, so I was just curious.

But back on topic, abortion is considered a type of birth control, actually.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 09:39 PM

I know you weren't I will defend myself when I need to maybe closing it would be a good idea...
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - November 30th 2011, 09:40 PM

I wasn't aiming that at you, but other users above. What you asked was a legit question, and I'm surprised it wasn't asked before hand. Just remember, that we do need to stay on topic before this gets too out of hand.

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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 1st 2011, 05:42 PM

She's the one who said "Maybe there is something wrong with me..." and I was stating what I think is true.

Whether you have an Abortion or not the decision should be a hard one to make... You shouldn't have the mind frame... Oh well it's okay if I get pregnant because I can just get an abortion... There IS something wrong with that! You need to talk to a professional. Not only will it run you down emotionally but can ruin your body. If you don't want a baby keep your legs closed.

I may be against abortion, but I am pro-choice.

Abortion should be a last resort "oh shit I fucked up and I really can't raise this baby, and there is no way I can carry it to full term to give it up for adoption" choice... Not a "well I have sex, but I don't really want a baby... and I "take" BC but it's failed me before and I got one abortion and then it failed me again... so i'll have another...."

Am I the only one who thinks that's a completely ill way to think? I mean if she was talking about SH or something y'all would tell her to get help... will this is SELF DESTRUCTION! and I'm telling her to GET HELP!
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 1st 2011, 06:33 PM

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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 1st 2011, 08:18 PM

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She's the one who said "Maybe there is something wrong with me..." and I was stating what I think is true.

Whether you have an Abortion or not the decision should be a hard one to make... You shouldn't have the mind frame... Oh well it's okay if I get pregnant because I can just get an abortion... There IS something wrong with that! You need to talk to a professional. Not only will it run you down emotionally but can ruin your body. If you don't want a baby keep your legs closed.

I may be against abortion, but I am pro-choice.

Abortion should be a last resort "oh shit I fucked up and I really can't raise this baby, and there is no way I can carry it to full term to give it up for adoption" choice... Not a "well I have sex, but I don't really want a baby... and I "take" BC but it's failed me before and I got one abortion and then it failed me again... so i'll have another...."

Am I the only one who thinks that's a completely ill way to think? I mean if she was talking about SH or something y'all would tell her to get help... will this is SELF DESTRUCTION! and I'm telling her to GET HELP!
Okay, look, I'm not attacking you, I'm very against abortion as well, but as Shannon has repeatedly said, please keep it civil or the thread will be closed. Nothing is being made better by you attacking the OP, it's only going to result in problems. The OP didn't ask for our opinions on her, she asked for our opinions on abortion in general. Can we please stop the fighting and get back to the original topic?


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 1st 2011, 11:05 PM

Thank you Haru. You took the words right out of my mouth; stay on topic. This thread was not made to bash the original poster. If you think that having an abortion is a mental illness, begin your own thread in a different forum, such as debates. The OP asked us for our opinions on abortion in general, not what we thought of her. Keep it civil, or again, I will close this thread.











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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 2nd 2011, 01:57 AM

Everybody is different. I have never had an abortion, but am very pro-choice, do not believe you are a "murderer" and not against the fact that you have had two.

But as a few others have said, this is not a great method of birth control. Contraceptives are like, amazing. Condoms are cheap, and very effective if you know how to use them. And birth control, it helps you have lighter periods, and there are so many methods. There's not a whole lot of reasons against them. Abortion is expensive, and there are studies showing it can be very harmful to your body, even modern ones. With what you pay for abortion, you can just get on birth control, and save a lot of time and energy.

The fact that you show no remorse for your abortions is positive for you, and it's great you don't have to have that trauma. But do think about the bodily damage. Birth control is a great thing, I would highly recommend you get on it if you are choosing to have regular sex.



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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 2nd 2011, 02:10 AM

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She's the one who said "Maybe there is something wrong with me..." and I was stating what I think is true.

Whether you have an Abortion or not the decision should be a hard one to make... You shouldn't have the mind frame... Oh well it's okay if I get pregnant because I can just get an abortion... There IS something wrong with that! You need to talk to a professional. Not only will it run you down emotionally but can ruin your body. If you don't want a baby keep your legs closed.

I may be against abortion, but I am pro-choice.

Abortion should be a last resort "oh shit I fucked up and I really can't raise this baby, and there is no way I can carry it to full term to give it up for adoption" choice... Not a "well I have sex, but I don't really want a baby... and I "take" BC but it's failed me before and I got one abortion and then it failed me again... so i'll have another...."

Am I the only one who thinks that's a completely ill way to think? I mean if she was talking about SH or something y'all would tell her to get help... will this is SELF DESTRUCTION! and I'm telling her to GET HELP!
what may be an emotional experience for you doesn't have to be for everyone. I don't feel emotions exactly I think it's better that way I don't go around saying other people who have this need help at this point. That's life get used to it everyone's different and no I don't need help. I could say who I think needs help but I won't.
   
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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 2nd 2011, 02:22 AM

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well, its technically killing a child, and in most countries, killing is frowned upon by the establishment.
There are many things wrong with this post. It's not killing a child because it's not a living being until it can survive outside the mother's body for an indefinite period of time. However this is off topic and not what the OP asked.

Abortion is a hard choice for some women because of the thought of losing their own flesh and blood. Emotional pain often follows when the choice is made.


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Re: how is abortion a hard choice to make? - December 2nd 2011, 02:22 AM

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I'm not understanding you... you got an abortion, but you weren't there..?
general anesthesia makes it where one is not conscious. So technically I wasn't there that's all I meant.
   
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