how is abortion a hard choice to make?

[cuteprickleypink1]

Originally Posted by Coffee❤

Everybody is different. I have never had an abortion, but am very pro-choice, do not believe you are a "murderer" and not against the fact that you have had two.

But as a few others have said, this is not a great method of birth control. Contraceptives are like, amazing. Condoms are cheap, and very effective if you know how to use them. And birth control, it helps you have lighter periods, and there are so many methods. There's not a whole lot of reasons against them. Abortion is expensive, and there are studies showing it can be very harmful to your body, even modern ones. With what you pay for abortion, you can just get on birth control, and save a lot of time and energy.

The fact that you show no remorse for your abortions is positive for you, and it's great you don't have to have that trauma. But do think about the bodily damage. Birth control is a great thing, I would highly recommend you get on it if you are choosing to have regular sex.

I already said I used it both times. Actually the last time I had bcp and condoms. I actually seem to be less fertile without bcp but I use it for other reasons not just to stop the baby making machine. I don't know how many more time I have to say I use bcp since I was quite young actually due to having irregular periods. I think everyone's body is different maybe that's why it didn't work so well for me. Oh well you live and you learn....

[abandoning]

cuteprickleypink1 - I just want to say I am NOT attacking you... I am simply stating my opinions.

Now I guess I will answer your question.

How is abortion a hard choice to make? - For me abortion was not an option for me because I felt morally and physically responsible for the baby I had growing inside of me. Abortion wasn't an option because the only option in my mind was to suck it up and raise my child(ren).

For other people I assume it would be hard because they have to battle that same question... "How am I going to do this?". I think Adoption would be a as hard if not harder of a decision to make. I think it should be a hard decision to make because you're getting rid of your child, no matter how you want to look at it... those embryos end up being babies, which end up being children, which grow up into people like us.

Maybe it is such an emotional decision for me, because I LOVE my children... I work hard to be a good mom and I couldn't imagine my life with out them (and trust me when I got pregnant with my daughter, I was NOT in a good place in life)

I also feel it SHOULD be a hard decision to make because I believe we as human beings should feel and take responsibility for our actions... That's how I was raised and that's how I will raise my kids. And I feel that's how EVERYONE should feel and think.

[cuteprickleypink1]

yea I was stating mine as well...
I just don't get how you expect everyone to feel the same as you.
I love children too but to me it I guess could mean more if like you had limited amount of pregnancy and it was the last one you could have. But to me it's as bad as when I have my period. I lose a potential child. But I have many more chances so it's no loss to me. I am a lot different from many I understand so maybe you're the majority probably so.

[abandoning]

Well when you have a period... your egg isn't fertilized.
When you have an abortion... your egg is and has become a growing human being inside you.

And if everyone thought like me... maybe less girls would put themselves in situations where they need to have abortions.

I do not think the way your are rationalizing having an abortion is healthy...

You are not saying "I have no means to take care of this child and I do not trust myself to take care of me and my body and there is no way I can hold my self accountable for this life... So I think the best decision would be to have an abortion... and maybe one day when I grow up and am married I'll have kids." or anything of the sort... You are justifying it as... "Oh well it's just a baby that could have had a life but I don't care" and if you DON'T feel that way you're not doing a very good job at communicating so.

I understand there are situations where an abortion really is the best choice... and perhaps it was for you.. I am not taking that away from you.

You are asking why it's hard and people are telling why they think it's hard, but you are not listening. I think you feel guilty or some sorrow... which is TOTALLY understandable. You might feel like you made the wrong choice... many women do! There are support groups, please invest some time into looking for one for yourself.

Also I encourage you to talk to your doctor about better birth control, like the Mirena, or something that's proven to be more effective than the pill, also ask him about other pills out there and how they might work better for your body so you DO NOT have to put yourself through this situation again.

I also read your other threads and you've reached out for advise on your "way of thinking"

Also, before you had your second abortion you had made the decision to keep that baby and talked about how much you loved it already. I am certain you are hurting and just want some to validate your decision.

You don't want to admit you're hurting and the decision you made was the hardest one you've ever made... you just don't want to feel "guilty" anymore?
Of course I am ASSuming here but this is what I gather from your responses and your other threads.

[cuteprickleypink1]

well like I've noticed something about you and you care too much about others. Like you care what I think you care about every child you could have had well then cry everytime your period comes. To me and most people it's not a human...
either way what's it have to do with MY life I have no clue. I don't know what you mean by justifying but yes I do use reason instead. I am sorry but I don't love everyone who's happened to be related to me. And even if I did love them I'd neber put them first.. I've got to live my life and no one else can do that no matter how much I'd love them. I make the best decision for myself first because that's what matters... I don't think it's unhealthy to think of if it concerns my life and if it doesn't to not give a shit about it. I don't concern myself about other people's lives.... That's too much to me obviously I don't care about the fetus why would when there are many to have. It actually is more dangerous of you to be caring about everyone it makes people more likely to be suicidal due to emotional instability to care about things that have nothing to do with them.

I'm sorry you're funny if you read my threads the other ones you'd realize I've never felt guilt a day in my life. This isn't an exception. I've had times I've questiined why I didn't have that feeling but in that situation I don't question that at all. Guilt is a feeling you can't feign to feel no matter what. I did love it. I already said I wanted it at first but eventually didn't feel comfortable and when something bothers me I'll get rid of it. I don't allow anything bother my life I am an adult and in control of myself I don't allow anyone to control that include a fetus or an animal or anything. That's just who I am. Some people are more mendable like you apparently by your emotions which makes it more weak. I'm not malible in those regards.
I'm responding back at you this way because you keep claiming that the way I think is unhealthy. And I'm saying the way you think may be dangerous to you. I don't care about the abortion. I am talking more about my personality. That's all. I'm different from you I care about myself maybe you don't put yourself first... That's where we differ and why I react differently from different things in life. You see many others gave me reasons on this thread but I didn't refute them it's the fact that you're claiming my reaction is wrong. You are the one and only one who spoke incorrectly... Next time you comment I'm messaging you....

[Kate*]

It depends entirely on the person and a lot of times on their belief and opinion on abortion. Just because it was easy for you doesn't mean that it's easy for everyone. I've never been in a situation where i had to make that decision, but I know that I could never go through with it, but that doesn't give me the right to judge people who have and I don't.

[Revolution]

If you are getting pregnant while using both birth control and condoms, I really recommend you see your gynecologist. Yes, every body is different, but these are hormones particularly seen to stop pregnancy. And I would recommend you check up on you and your partner's ways of putting on a condom, because that is the most common reason for their failures.

Abortion is not good for your body in the long term. Forget about the emotional stuff, if you don't feel it, then it doesn't matter. Think about your body. This is not good for you in the long term. I would really recommend you talk to your doctor about getting on a different hormone. And also, at worst case scenario, you can say no to your lover until these issues are settled out.

[cuteprickleypink1]

I just realized I don't want depo or iud. I might actually want to have kids with the right person given the time I like the flexibility in bcp for that if it only worked. I've been with different guys and I know how condoms are supposed to be worn. I don't want a disease... I like the flexibility...

[Revolution]

Well, that's good, I would talk to your doctor though about changing the hormone you are on in your pills so that you can find one that works for you. And make sure the person you are with knows how to put on a condom as well, there's no point of buying them if you don't know how to put them on.

[Maloo]

There's still other options, like the NuvaRing, since the pill doesn't seem to be working for you. And there are other pills.

[Angel]

Originally Posted by cuteprickleypink1

I just realized I don't want depo or iud. I might actually want to have kids with the right person given the time I like the flexibility in bcp for that if it only worked. I've been with different guys and I know how condoms are supposed to be worn. I don't want a disease... I like the flexibility...

What makes you think that the IUD would affect your future fertility? You need to do some more research on your own and speak with your gynecologist. IUDs are the most effective forms of reversible birth control out on the market today. They can be removed at any time for whatever reason, there's nothing requiring them to be kept for the entire length of their effectiveness.

[cuteprickleypink1]

I know but right now I have something on my mind and maybe after this ordeal I'll use it just not now really. Like iuds are indiscriminate and at the moment I don't need it. But yea I've been interested in it when I was under 18 I wasn't able to get it so it is something I want to look into getting...

[abandoning]

No I don't think EVERY PERIOD I've had as a baby lost.
Actually I would shout for joy when my period came because I didn't use BC...
My first was unplanned and my second was planned.

I do not care about EVERYONE in my life. I generally care about the well being of other people but I wouldn't go out of my way to help them if I was jeopardizing my self.

Yes I am a mother, and I will ALWAYS put my kids first, and when you have children, I am SURE you will feel the same way. I am married, a mom and I love life. period.

Also I understand you don't feel the fetus's you gave up were humans yet, I understand people think that way... I however do not. I believe at the point of conception, that egg and sperm are now babies. Whether you ever agree with me or not I do not care

I am just trying to offer advise, from a different point of view.

What you say makes no sense, but it's loud and clear that you don't care nor want help... you just want to argue, that's why you created this thread right?

take care.
don't message me.

[lacylovebugg]

This is how I see it:


Let's say that your best friend is inside a building you plan to blow up. Now, you know he/she is in there even though you can't see them. You wouldn't blow the building up while they were inside.

With pregnancy, that is a baby. Just because you can not see that it is a baby just yet, doesn't mean that it isn't in there. You wouldn't kill an innocent baby. And what grows inside of you is an innocent baby.

The baby inside of you is more helpless than a newborn in the way that when you look at that child, you have an instinct to protect it. You might not feel this way during pregnancy because you can not see the look on his/hers face. Or feel them breath. Or hear the breath. It's almost like it isn't happening. Once childbirth happens, you know it is real.

You are creating a life inside of you that depends on you to protect it. It is not here because it chose to. It is here because you (meaning to or not) chose for him/her to be here.
Like I said, this is how I feel and I don't want it to upset anyone. (:


Edit:
I will also add that I feel having the option of abortion has allowed many many more pregnancy. Killing a 26 year old woman is "in-humane" and wrong. It is murder. Well, one day that baby will be 26 years old. Would you take it's life then?

[VikingJones]

I wrote out a whole long winded post and then realized that it didn't answer the OP's question.

Why is abortion such a difficult decision I paraphrased...

Generally, a woman does a lot of soul searching before she has an abortion. Most women go to friends, family, a religious figure, or a little green man for their advice and guidance. As much as we pretend otherwise, humans are social creatures and we depend on the opinions and advice of others to form our own decisions. Even you, who hates your mother so much as to come online and deface her image publicly, depends on these views to form your opinions.

Once the woman has gathered all this outside information, she must look within herself to make the final decision. Influenced or not, it is her choice. However, in most cases, there is generally a male figure in the picture to turn to. The woman must confront the could-be father about the situation. As much as there is an argument that "it's her body, so it's her choice, blah blah blah," there was another party that is equally responsible for the situation, and he needs to be made privy to the information if you are thinking about an abortion.

All of this talking is going to make the woman very emotional (your hormones are on edge from the moment you conceive so emotions run high) and it might even make the male figure emotional.

With all of that going on, it's not really that difficult to see how this can be a big decision, and has many ripples that effect a lot of people. Your case may be different, but most of them are like what I said above.

I am, however, in the same thinking as someone else who posted here. If you feel absolutely NOTHING. No guilt, no stress, NOTHING, about having an abortion, then you need to seek professional help. You say you like kids, yet you terminated two potential kids before they even had a chance to get past the bunch-of-cells stage. If you care so much for kids, you have a helluva way of showing it. I don't say this last bit to be mean. I would just like to see you get help because a lack of emotion can be a very bad thing. Not sociopathic bad, but locked-away-waiting-for-an-outlet bad.

A note on the BC thing:

Please go see a doctor about adjusting either the dosage of the hormones, the hormones themselves, or the type of BC altogether. If it's not working, there is no point in wasting money on it in the hopes that you might get lucky and have it work once. From experience, pregnancy can change the way the body processes BC. I went from extremely light periods on the pill before I had my daughter to having two very heavy periods a month after I had my daughter. I am now using an IUD that seems to be helping this issue, and haven't had a period in two months. So just because you weren't very far along with either pregnancy, they may have changed how your body handles the pill. Get it checked out.

Another note on the abortion/fertility thing:
Do some more research, chick. The doctor is literally ripping something out of your body. Uterine scarring happens with abortions. It's almost unavoidable. This scarring can make it to where the fertilized egg will never attach to the uterine wall. To many abortions can affect your later ability to get pregnant. Not because it affects the viability of your eggs, but because it affects the ability of your uterus to hold onto that egg through a pregnancy. You are also much more likely to have a miscarriage in the future because of your decisions to have abortions now. Be careful, because when you finally do want to have kids, you may not be able to.

I also urge you to look into giving your children (future) up for adoption instead of having abortions. There are plenty of families out there who aren't lucky in the fertility area like you are and can't have children of their own. They would happily provide the child with a life you may not be able to give it in your current situation. If you don't want to stretch your svelte body to the extreme in order to carry a pregnancy to term, than you need to start abstaining from sex and not putting yourself in these situations in the first place.

All those asides aside, this is not meant as a dig at the OP in any way, but you will take it as you will.

[cuteprickleypink1]

I'm actually not the one arguing you are

and I didn't know my bc didn't work well it took 2 years to get pregnant again. Also my first pregnancy could have been argued as rape as I was drunk when I conceived but he was my bf. So not like I was traumatized.

I don't get why do you guys think I actually aborted?
I never had a medical abortion. People who abort are drs... Not teenage girls..

and what if it's a 15 year old who's getting her third abortion because her dad repeatedly rapes her. I don't think she should be sterilized... But thanks for your post was quite helpful..
I'm 18 now so it really doesn't matter. I've used this bc because it works well with my periods.... But not with my reproductive system. So I guess you're right I should use something that works for both. Which is what I'll consider. I have no guys in my life now....

[VikingJones]

Originally Posted by cuteprickleypink1

I don't get why do you guys think I actually aborted?
I never had a medical abortion. People who abort are drs... Not teenage girls..

Like I said, you will take it as you will. I actually wasn't arguing anything, simply stating my opinion. You asked a question, I answered it in my own words.

Now, sit down real quiet and read what you wrote. You went to a doctor. You had an abortion. That would actually be a medical abortion, since doctors generally work in the field of medicine and anything they do officially is considered medical. And pregnant women have abortions. Doctors just perform them. There is a difference.

Abortion: noun
Also called voluntary abortion. the removal of an embryo or fetus from the uterus in order to end a pregnancy.

any of various surgical methods for terminating a pregnancy, especially during the first six months.

This is why we are saying YOU aborted the fetus. You made the decision to go to the doctor and have an ABORTION. The doctor only performed the procedure, you wanted it done. From a medical standpoint, the actual procedure is coded differently and doesn't use the word abortion. So the act of an abortion sits squarely on the woman's shoulders, the doctor just does the dirty deed.

[cuteprickleypink1]

no a medical abortion is an abortion that you take misopristone. Or w.e. That's what a medical abortion is

yes I had an abortion. But I didn't abort. To abort is a procedure done by dr. Unless you have a medical abortion. Idk why you wantt o argue I said I liked your post....
either way some people believe that the procedure of abortion is murder I didn't abort I did not do it I had one. I personally think neither is wrong but I'm just pointing out technically I did not abort I had one. There's a difference....... There's a difference between a verb and a noun....

[Maloo]

If you had an abortion done, that means you had an abortion done to you. Just because you weren't the one who technically did it doesn't change the fact that you decided to not carry the pregnancy to full term. It makes me wonder if you doubt whether or not you're ok with your decision, because you're really kind of trying to jump through a loophole that doesn't exist.

[Aletheia*]

I think you're getting the terms abortion and miscarriage confused together.

Miscarriage means that the fetus isn't compatible with the body, therefore, your body 'releases' of sorts.

Abortion is when a doctor physically removes the fetus/embryo from your body, therefore you received an abortion when this procedure was done to you.

Nobody is arguing with you here. You kindly asked opinions, those people are giving their opinions. You've been bashed previously for your beliefs, but that has kindly been taken care of, and now you just think people are trying to argue with you, which they aren't. We are trying to make you understand the fact that you had an abortion DONE to you.

[cuteprickleypink1]

that's what I'm saying I had one done to me. I did not abort. Don't you get it now?? All I'm saying is I did NOT abort. I had an abortion. Abortion=/= abort.
Abortion= noun Abort=verb.... Noun=/=verb....
so giving me an example about killing someone I didn't see isn't the same because I never did anything but made a decision
maybe you should reread lacey's post. It'll make sense to the person in the building analogy.

[Maloo]

So then the only difference is that you didn't personally blow up the building, you told someone to go ahead and push that button.

You're really stretching here.

[lacylovebugg]

Originally Posted by VikingJones

Like I said, you will take it as you will. I actually wasn't arguing anything, simply stating my opinion. You asked a question, I answered it in my own words.

Now, sit down real quiet and read what you wrote. You went to a doctor. You had an abortion. That would actually be a medical abortion, since doctors generally work in the field of medicine and anything they do officially is considered medical. And pregnant women have abortions. Doctors just perform them. There is a difference.


This is why we are saying YOU aborted the fetus. You made the decision to go to the doctor and have an ABORTION. The doctor only performed the procedure, you wanted it done. From a medical standpoint, the actual procedure is coded differently and doesn't use the word abortion. So the act of an abortion sits squarely on the woman's shoulders, the doctor just does the dirty deed.

you took the words right out of my mouth. lol

Also, if you are drunk and you and your boyfriend have sex that's not rape dear. I have had sex with my boyfriend while i was drunk and he was not or he was and I was sober. It wasn't rape. i never told him no or to stop. If he would have kept on it would have been rape. And I never fought it. I enjoyed it.

[lacylovebugg]

Originally Posted by Maloo

So then the only difference is that you didn't personally blow up the building, you told someone to go ahead and push that button.

You're really stretching here.

i gotta love this (;

[lacylovebugg]

I just am wondering but I'll ask anyway. Everything you tell us doesn't seem to make sense. You had an abortion and now your saying you didn't. Maybe you should get one, I don't know how mentally stable you are. You can't throw up a legit argument. No one is attacking you or trying to argue with you and you insist they are. We are only trying to help you. But it almost sounds as though your missing something. Mentally. YOU didn't perform the abortion but if YOU never told the doctor it was okay he never would have done it. It's not like the doctor just woke up one morning and decided to give you an abortion with out your consent. YOU had to say it was okay. It's your body and your baby. In the end, the decision is solely up to you.

So yes you had an abortion and yes you had the baby aborted.

It was YOUR decision.

[cuteprickleypink1]

yea I'm just being technically correct if you can't catch that. It's not my problem. I never said I didn't have an abortion. You're putting words in my mouth I said I never aborted it's a small difference but I never did abort that's a fact. I HAD an abortion (noun). You are showing you're mentally retarded everytime I point out the obvious to you.
and actually yea if you get so drunk some people would say it's rape I didn't just SOME people would say so....
I don't get why you're attacking me for saying the obvious. You can't make sense of verbs and nouns. Well that's not my problem.
yea that's right you're finally getting it I had an abortion. But I didn't abort as in the verb... It's pointless explaining to you it seems *lost cause*.
btw telling someone to kill someone is not murder in my eyes. But even to say that it is an individual is a stretch. The law agrees with me not you...

[lacylovebugg]

The fact that you are getting so defensive makes me feel that you feel guilty about something.

You can go on believing what you want.

In the state where i live if I am in a room with you and someone else and I tell you to kill that person i go to jail. Not just because I told you to do it, but because I let it happen. If you knowingly let someone die when you can stop it, it is a crime.

And if you get drunk and hang around people that will take advantage of it, that is no one's fault except your own. I only drink around my boyfriend who I trust with my life. I don't go to parties because you don't know everyone is who is there. You make the choice to be around people like that. You can't be change what other people do, but you can make sure whatever they do doesn't happen to you.

And drunk sex is never good unless you use birth control. Sober, you can feel the condom. Drunk, you can not.

Funny how you go from attacking someone else to attacking me. If you don't want someone's opinion, why did you make this post?

As far as the abort/abortion thing. It's whatever helps you sleep at night. Bottom line is you wwent to the clinic you said let's kill this living life form inside me and the doctor said okay sign these papers. and then tada! you came out with no baby in your belly. Call it whatever you want, it's the same principal. You had an abortion. Which requires a doctor to do. Which requires your consent. All i said was it was your choice to do so. You called the shots.

And who knows. It's probably so hard for you to have an abortion this time because you feel guilty. And as far as your concerned"the doctor" had an abortion. That's almost like being in denial.

[lacylovebugg]

Originally Posted by cuteprickleypink1

yea I'm just being technically correct if you can't catch that. It's not my problem. I never said I didn't have an abortion. You're putting words in my mouth I said I never aborted it's a small difference but I never did abort that's a fact. I HAD an abortion (noun). You are showing you're mentally retarded everytime I point out the obvious to you.
and actually yea if you get so drunk some people would say it's rape I didn't just SOME people would say so....
I don't get why you're attacking me for saying the obvious. You can't make sense of verbs and nouns. Well that's not my problem.
yea that's right you're finally getting it I had an abortion. But I didn't abort as in the verb... It's pointless explaining to you it seems *lost cause*.
btw telling someone to kill someone is not murder in my eyes. But even to say that it is an individual is a stretch. The law agrees with me not you...

It almost sounds as though you are talking to yourself here..... I knew from the moment i read the first post you made that you had an abortion....... I didn't JUST NOW get it. lmao

[brokensmilexx]

For some the choice may be hard, and for others not so much.
I would say it all depends on the person's beliefs/emotions/religion/opinions etc..
When I was faced with the choice I found it difficult to choose. I always said I would keep my baby if I got pregnant, and never get an abortion. My boyfriend wanted me to get an abortion..he said he would pay for it and everything. But I told him I wanted to keep it. The more I thought about it though the more and more abortion seemed like the smarter choice. I mean I was 16, no job, barely able to take care of myself let alone a baby.. But the thought of having a child of my very own made me feel so happy.
In the end I lost it by miscarriage. It was probably for the best.
But overall,the fact that makes its such a hard choice for some people is they see it as an already living being, where others don't which makes it easier to not have an emotional attachment to it.

[Aletheia*]

To Lucy and the OP, please do not argue. I've asked this politely a few times on the first page of the thread. If arguing continues, I'm going to have to shut down the thread.

To the OP, please do not call someone "mentally retarded". Coming from someone who has a family member with a disability, I don't appreciate the comment.

If arguing continues, the thread will be closed down. Stay on topic, be polite to each other, and don't argue. There is no reason for it.

[cuteprickleypink1]

Originally Posted by lacylovebugg

The fact that you are getting so defensive makes me feel that you feel guilty about something.

You can go on believing what you want.

In the state where i live if I am in a room with you and someone else and I tell you to kill that person i go to jail. Not just because I told you to do it, but because I let it happen. If you knowingly let someone die when you can stop it, it is a crime.

And if you get drunk and hang around people that will take advantage of it, that is no one's fault except your own. I only drink around my boyfriend who I trust with my life. I don't go to parties because you don't know everyone is who is there. You make the choice to be around people like that. You can't be change what other people do, but you can make sure whatever they do doesn't happen to you.

And drunk sex is never good unless you use birth control. Sober, you can feel the condom. Drunk, you can not.

Funny how you go from attacking someone else to attacking me. If you don't want someone's opinion, why did you make this post?

As far as the abort/abortion thing. It's whatever helps you sleep at night. Bottom line is you wwent to the clinic you said let's kill this living life form inside me and the doctor said okay sign these papers. and then tada! you came out with no baby in your belly. Call it whatever you want, it's the same principal. You had an abortion. Which requires a doctor to do. Which requires your consent. All i said was it was your choice to do so. You called the shots.

And who knows. It's probably so hard for you to have an abortion this time because you feel guilty. And as far as your concerned"the doctor" had an abortion. That's almost like being in denial.

I'm only playing with you with the abortion statement though it's true. I didn't mean for you to blow it out of proportion. I'm an aspiring lawyer some day I'll reason you out on anything if you oppose it long enough. That's the way I was made.
Didn't I say I don't feel guilt. Sorry you keep saying it won't make me feel it. I've never even felt feelings of guilt or remorse for anything. The day I feel it for anything I'll call you.
But YOU want me to be defensive because I respond to you. So do you want me to ignore you because everything I say is 'defensive'. I'm calmly answering all your questions. Sadly the fact that you think irrationally makes upset at anything I say which is annoying.


Now you're trying to say I get drunk around others I don't trust lol.... Was it I who believes this or felt that it was rape? No. I said SOME people think this way I didn't include myself. I don't think I felt raped. If you read my other posts I loved him actually... BUT SOME people would say so. Reading comprehension skills, it seems you need to work on them.....

Yes you can go to jail for many things but is this for murder no for being an accomplice. It's a difference. It's technically not murder no matter who said what.

[cuteprickleypink1]

Originally Posted by Zelophobia

To Lucy and the OP, please do not argue. I've asked this politely a few times on the first page of the thread. If arguing continues, I'm going to have to shut down the thread.

To the OP, please do not call someone "mentally retarded". Coming from someone who has a family member with a disability, I don't appreciate the comment.

If arguing continues, the thread will be closed down. Stay on topic, be polite to each other, and don't argue. There is no reason for it.

she called me unstable that's why I said so

Ad my dad was MR ad I was born with three different disabilities.

I already told you a long time to close it.

[cuteprickleypink1]

Originally Posted by brokensmilexx

For some the choice may be hard, and for others not so much.
I would say it all depends on the person's beliefs/emotions/religion/opinions etc..
When I was faced with the choice I found it difficult to choose. I always said I would keep my baby if I got pregnant, and never get an abortion. My boyfriend wanted me to get an abortion..he said he would pay for it and everything. But I told him I wanted to keep it. The more I thought about it though the more and more abortion seemed like the smarter choice. I mean I was 16, no job, barely able to take care of myself let alone a baby.. But the thought of having a child of my very own made me feel so happy.
In the end I lost it by miscarriage. It was probably for the best.
But overall,the fact that makes its such a hard choice for some people is they see it as an already living being, where others don't which makes it easier to not have an emotional attachment to it.

I'm sorry for your loss heal soon

[Aletheia*]

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