[Rhiannax3]

First of all, I did read your whole post, I just thought you were referring to things like oral or dildos when you mentioned everyday activities, not for non sexual things.

Originally Posted by Brandon

That's why I'm saying "isn't MUCH of a difference" between your other experiences. Virginity is more important because driving with your father isn't as important as having someone see you naked and actually penetrate your vagina. I'm sure you'll remember the first time you had sex than the first time you drove a car. They're all first experiences, just some are more important than the other one. I'm sure someone may have a more vivid memory of the first time they drove a car than their first time having sex, it all depends on what you find more important to you. I'm not saying virginity isn't important, but to me it's just classified as a "first time" thing rather than something "sacred".

I guess it's just the word sacred which I don't really understand. I realise once it's gone, it's gone, but how is it sacred exactly? When as you've said it can be broken by everyday stuff.. I would understand more if it only occurred when having sex for the first time..

Basically...let's say a woman hasn't broken her hymen through other activities yet and she has sex with a guy who breaks the hymen. It would be harder for her to lie about having a first sexual experience because the hymen was broken. You could lie and say that you broke your hymen through tampons, horseback riding, biking, whatever, but only you would know that your hymen was broken because a male penetrated you. If you were a virgin and you had sex (and your hymen was broken) and you lied to the guy that you WERE a virgin, he could feel special for "taking your virginity". Ideally, you could tell every guy that you're a virgin and they would ALL have the impression that they took your virginity. But if a guy damages your hymen, then he knows, pretty much for sure, that you've never had sex, and that he actually took something from you. Breaking the hymen shouldn't be a significant factor, I'm just saying that breaking the hymen should be more significant than losing your virginity because it's more concrete evidence. It's like...asking Bill Gates how much he has. If he says "20 billion dollars", you could only assume that he's telling you the truth because of how much shit he owns and how much he gives away. BUT if he gives you his bank statement, then you'd KNOW and wouldn't be basing on assumption anymore.

I don't get that virginity doesn't mean much nowadays just because a lot of people lie about it. I get that because of that, you may not know if someone is really telling the truth or not, but that's circumstantial. It doesn't mean virginity isn't as special. If someone decides not to have sex before marriage, that's still a meaningful thing.

So breaking the hymen is proof, concrete evidence that you've taken someone's virginity? Why does it matter if a guy knows for sure that he really has taken your virginity? Why is it the significant factor when half the time, it doesn't count? I just think it's sad if that's what's really special, just cos you know for sure..

I understand why it's proof, but I don't believe it should be such an important thing and "sacred" if it's so unreliable. I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself or anything, I guess I feel so strongly because it relates to me..