[NonIndigenous]

Originally Posted by Amorphous.

I understand the people saying the majority of the world is religious but that's not what I am seeing at this stage.

Bare in mind that the majority of the world also doesn't have access to the internet.

Originally Posted by Amorphous.

Can you put me at ease on this one LOL, I just get surrounded by people who see religion as an evil concept. It's had to keep your faith when so many don't have any. Is it the viewpoint of the majority these days?

Tell those people to get lost.

The majority of religious people have been shouting down and condemning atheists for centuries. Go to some less developed countries/communities and this still happens frequently enough. So now atheists think this gives them a right to shout back at religious people of today, most of whom aren't responsible for crimes of the past like the crusades. In fact, it's impossible for them to be responsible for it, unless there is someone walking among us who is several thousand years old.

Sure, there are religious assholes just as much. There are also just as many atheist assholes.

This attitude or take on politics of "blame the present generation" of whatever group of people, for things they messed up on in the past has got to stop. It applies in so many contexts. I'm atheist. If I were religious, I'd refuse to take responsibility for crimes committed against humanity 500 years ago during the Spanish inquisition. It's bullshit. I'm white. I refuse to take responsibility and be penalized for crimes committed against minority groups in the past which I personally haven't committed. I refuse to take responsibility for anything I haven't done. And forcing people to do so... can backfire. Some people submit to the pressure. In fact, most do. And some people get truly pissed off.



I'm of the opinion that in the past, religion was largely a means of control & authority over the population in most cultures and countries. That doesn't mean that it's the original reason why it was created. Personally, I think religion came to existence for good reasons. Then the corruption set in. Religion almost always had heavy impacts on the law. As always, if you have control & authority, you'll have people who abuse it. This is similar across many ideologies. Socialism was created with good intentions, then abused by the likes of Stalin. Democracy has been created with good intentions, and is gradually becoming increasingly corrupted (in my opinion) by the financial sector... there are reputable studies which have concluded the USA to be an oligarchy, not a "democracy". Arguably, even fascism itself could be a positive thing in the "right hands". My point is... the ideology or religion which governs a society, is not mostly to blame for it's shortfalls. It's the people in control.

Today the power has shifted away from religion, but people haven't changed. There are still wars. No massive world wars, because the asswipes know that it'd cause mass extinction with today's weapons.

Religion no longer has the "power" it used to... and yet shit continues to happen. Surely then, "religion" isn't the problem, is it? It's like I said already. Certain people are the problem. Human nature.


This is supposed to be a factual statement, so please don't take offense. Religion has lost it's grip on the world as it has become better educated and more developed. Religion is generally, more prevalent in less developed communities and countries. Less developed communities and countries tend to have less $$$, less education, more bigotry, less tolerance, more extremism, more racism, etc. That sort of environment gives rise to a larger number of fanatics, unfortunately, often religious ones due to a larger proportion of the population being religious.

But it's a cruel generalization to say that all religious believers are like that. It's just a trend. The majority are not nutcases. Not from my experience. Personally, for me to hold a conversation with some of them can be frustrating because we find it hard to see eye-to-eye on a lot of things, but that doesn't make them "crazy" the same way it doesn't make me "crazy". Most of it is a difference of opinions.