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Originally Posted by WOW!USaidSomethingSmart!
Given that you're focusing on chance for that, I'm not understand why you say you don't agree with the chance argument. When you mention the big bang happening in other areas, you say it's less rare for us to have been made, which does show you don't agree with the chance argument. I think I must be missing something or not understand part of the post mentioned in the above paragraph.
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I don't necessarily agree with the chance argument, and there is no circular reasoning in my argument. I was showing the circular reasoning in the posters argument. To say it's very rare for us to be here by "chance," then the person arguing that way would have to agree that it is EQUALLY as rare, if not MORE rare, for a God who is that knowledgeable to exist. In other words, if someone wants to say, "The chances are very slim we would just end up here without a designer," well, it's just as unlikely for that Designer to exist.
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