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Re: What proof do you want? And in turn, what proof do you have? - March 30th 2009, 05:25 AM

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I don't think you're understanding that Santa Claus is widely known as being made-up because of the KNOWN history of how it was made up. Did you read anything on the link that I gave you?

"Saint Nicholas was born in 260AD in Patara, a coastal town in what is now Turkey. The poor knew him throughout the land for his generosity, his love for children and being associated with ships, the sea and sailors. He was eventually consecrated Bishop of Myra, just miles from his hometown.
Our western tradition of Santa Claus and Father Christmas originates with the beloved saint. Many Christian churches and many countries observe December 6th, his feast day, with great celebrations, processions, services and gift giving."

^Santa Claus originated with all of that, and is therefore, known to not be real. So Santa Claus doesn't make a very good argument.
You're ignoring my point on technicalities. So, forget Santa. If someone said they believed there is a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow but nobody can find them because they don't want to be found, what would you say?


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Back to the faith thing... God wants his followers simply to believe in him and trust him. The Bible goes on and on about faith. And the Bible is what God wants us to live by. If the religion itself wasn't based on a foundation of faith, yeah, I'd want some proof. But since there is so much talk of how important faith is in the Bible, I believe that God, once again, wants his followers to have faith and trust in him, not ask for proof.
Yes, but WHY is faith so important? WHY does god want you to have faith? And would you believe me if I said I have 5 heads? You aren't answering any of my questions.


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