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I've experienced both, cars, car accidents do not scare me. Perhaps someone types in rape to google, to get help, and that game comes up? Hardly seeking something to make them angry, and they get a terrible reminder, that people want to do this, people find what happened to them just a game. That people would want to rape them again. |
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It is not the same. Don't even compare if you haven't experienced. |
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Are there really any arguments against this game over than "I don't like the subject matter of the game"?
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And I'd just like to add that I'm also speaking as a rape victim, who also coincidentally happens to have rape fantasies. I can confidently say, I would play this game. I don't see the difference between this video game and the various other rape fantasy material I seek out online. I'd also like to point out that the argument "what if a rape victim typed 'rape' into google and came up with this game" doesn't work. When you type rape into google (as I just tried) you get dozens of links to information and counselling for rape victims, things like that. To actually get the kind of material we're talking about, you specifically have to type in "rape fantasy". And I fail to see why a traumatized, easy-to-trigger rape victim would do that. |
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I think this is vile too, I'm a rape victim too, and i understand what people are saying that its just fantasy etc.
But what about all the people who play grand theft auto or other violent games and then go out and kill someone. It's then going to become a problem of people just going out and raping someone because the think its okay. |
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There were two young university students who read Nietzsche's On the Genealogy of Morality, and interpreted it in such a way that they murdered a woman, claiming Nietzsche had taught them murder was acceptable. Should we ban his philosophy because of that? |
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99.9% (not offical statistic) of people who play games like GTA fully realise that it is not reality, they also understand that any such actions in reality would be breaking the law. I really don't believe video games or films can truly influence violence, sure they plant the idea, but you cannot blame the game/wahtever for the outcome. The individual sorts actions from thoughts and thus it is the fault of the individual or the parent if the individual is not fully mature. |
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How do video games incourage violence?
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thats discusting, for all those who are saying for it asin for it to be sold, how would you like it if it had happened to you, it could be someone playing the game right now that attacks you in the future, or someone you care about
as a few peoples opinions aint gonna change the fact there is a game on here, but at least it should be made with some precautions to make sure under 18 or 21s whatever cannot use it, and when they do get onto it there should be some information like 'this should not be attempted in real life' it probably wont make a difference but you never know, it might. although one pro for the game is that if people feel the need to go and rape someone then they can do it online instead of in real life. |
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This is the sickest thing I have ever heard. I don't care who decides to deal out personal attacks, I may state my opinion on the matter; other members have the same right. Whoever thought of this game is most likely very disturbed and should be committed to a mental ward. |
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Though I understand the opposite point of view, I still believe this is wrong. I think it's an excellent example of how the world is heading into moral and ethical ambiguity. We no longer know where to draw the lines. Rape is a scary situation, and it should not be taken lightly and put into something as mundane and commonplace as a video game. That's just qualifying that it's an accepted action. Creating a rape simulator just blurs the lines and makes it seem like less of a horrible situation. Like violent movies, one can easily become desensitized and become unable to see the distinction of why it is in fact so wrong. And although it may not be encouraging one to go out and rape someone, it is still placing innapropriate thoughts in a person head. The concept of it is wrong. It reminds me of that ethical cleasing video game a while back, where the white people would go out and shoot all the the other ethnic minorities, (i.e. mexican, black). And like in that situation, it just makes ideas like that more embraced by society.
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Who the hell would invent a game like this.... I find this... completely inappropriate in every way, shape and form. Rape isn't a game. It's not fun and shouldn't be portrayed in that way. It's not something to mess around with or mock.
I am taken aback by this..... how rude and offensive. |
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I haven't read everyone's response, but I know realize where my philosophy got this scenario from :bleh:
At first, I thought it was horrific, as most you the posts I read had said. But then, if it stopped rapists? If it satisfied their needs enough? And you could prove it would help? Then I'm all for it. Though I can (And I'm sure many of you) can argue both sides of it well. I do understand it could up the rape rate. If it does, then stop letting it be legal. Rapes go on. Many of us have experienced something like this, a game is not going to make or break if that happens. (I don't mean to sound rude, and no disrespect to anyone, that is just my view) |
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where is censorship when you need it?
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I find this to be awesome. People have their own fantasies, and I think this game would be amazing to play.
I haven't read all the previous comments but from what I read of most of them, some advice for you: don't like it, don't play it. Yes it may be controversial or if it triggers you or whatever your excuses are, just don't associate with it. It's unfair for your whining to ruin the fun for others. There doesn't seem to be much of an arguement here anymore (if there ever was) as it seems to be revolving around "I don't like it". Too bad, you don't have to like it. Don't like it, don't play it. And for those of you who used the card "im a rape victim blah blah", sorry, you're getting no sympathy if you wanted any. Nice try though to play the game of inducing guilt or sadness into others to win your point. |
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eh i commented in the other thread for this but i'll say it again
i'm a girl. i've had two best friends who have been raped and i've been sexually assulted. i have sexual fantasties about being raped or having sex against my will etc which i play out with my partner although i obviously would not, under any circumstances actually enjoy being raped if it were to happen. this video game is therefore in my eyes perfectly acceptable. if you are a rape victim then i obviously feel that it could be triggering or offensive, that being said, no need to watch/play it. And further more someone else said this was shocking? it's hardly suprising to me at all, heaps of fake rape porn, heaps of people into bdsm, so heaps of people who liket o live out their fantasties without actually harming themselves or other people. i think the game is a little odd haha but each to their own. |
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Doesn't solve the problem makes it worse. |
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Yea i heard about this from my bf and he seemed pretty enthused about the whole thing, he see's it as just some other game. I personally was horrified, and I think it is a sick game. I think it's because I'm a woman and the whole rape thing is just scary for us all.
I have played violent games but killing zombies and raping women are just two totally different extremes I think. |
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Hence, why I say don't like it, don't play it but let others play it. |
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Violent movies make people less violent, violent video games don't make people more violent so I don't see how this game could make an adult more likely to rape anyone. I'm pretty sure most adults can tell reality from fantasy. |
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I've read through this entire thread, and I'm a little disgusted at the personal attacks over a thread that is simply asking for people to state their opinions. Lou and the others weren't "playing a card", they were showing their experience which not everyone has; just like those who liked the game were throwing in their opinions. It adds variety to the debate, which is the point. Name-calling isn't the purpose here.
As for the game itself, I think that it's another step towards desensitizing the public to horrific acts but I doubt we could (or should) get it banned. Yes, I would rather it didn't exist since this is a sick idea (just like the vids endorsing murder are sick) but that won't change anything so I don't think we should try to eliminate it. Adult ratings will go a ways to restricting it, but as proved before that's not completely effective either. I just overall think that it's an insult to anyone who has lived this game, that others would even pretend to play something so traumatizing. No, I'm not a rape/sexual assault victim, but you have to admit the game belittles something that has caused alot of people pain. That's why I don't like the fact that it's coming out. |
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I am done arguing.... i just think this is wrong and some people are treating this insensitively and borderline cruelly |
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Furthermore, what censorship are you talking about? The game is already not allowed outside Japan by the original company themselves + has a certain age limitation on it. |
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I think you should try to look at it, as not a thing trying to lessen the meaning of rape. Rape, is a bad thing, it shouldn't happen to anyone. While it is being casually rolled around with this game, think of it this way. What if someone who got raped, may not have if the attacker had played this game and got the urges out of their system with a game? That's the side I'm looking at. |
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The only way I could possibly endorse censoring this game is if a reliable study was carried out which proved a direct correlation between people playing this game, and then actually going out and raping women. Until then, it's not an issue. Similar to how I wouldn't suggest censoring porn depicting rape unless it was proven that it caused real life rapes.
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Oh, yes, it's insensitive. If you want to argue this then damn near everything is insensitive. GTA is insensitive to victims of violence or theft, this game is insensitive to rape victims, hell, donkey kong is insensitive to people who were beaten by a large male/female. Just about every single damn thing is insensitive. People need to learn to grow some skin and live with it. Don't like it, don't use it. And what if it triggers them, oh no. What if GTA triggers someone to steal a car, or what if simpson's road rage triggers people to joyride around town recklessly, or what if hitman triggers people to kill someone, hell, what if austin powers triggers people to go out about and sexually assault/hit on someone. Anything can trigger anyone, this is no different. Anything can be insensitive, we have to grow skin, a spine and live with it. |
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*comes out of nowhere*
Wouldnt this have been better suited in the Debate Forum? |
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