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Re: Ben Rothlesberger's Rape Case

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Originally Posted by dr2005
Sorry, did you actually bother to read what I wrote? If you apply education in a blanket fashion and enforce positive attitudes from the outset, as I alluded to in my post, the "potential rapist" angle becomes completely redundant. If you target the general population with such a message, and in particular make people more aware about consent and basic respect, you reduce the likelihood of harmful attitudes developing. I don't exactly see what the problem is with that statement.
The problem with that statement is that you're depending on the rapist, who already knows that rape is wrong, to suddenly come to his senses because you "educated" him that what he's doing is wrong.

Also, how the hell are you going to "enforce" positive attitudes?

No, actually, he's not--he's talking about educating children in school now to prevent this from continuing in generations to come. For example, educating in schools about the dangers of drug use has significantly reduced drug use over time (I could find the stats if you really wanted, but I'm sure this is a common fact by now--look at cigarettes if you want the most obvious example). By educating people about the dangers of abusive relationships, bullying and any type of rape or other violent behavior, these behaviors should go down. Abusive relationship education is just now starting to be implemented in schools, and anti-bullying education has been a movement for a little while. It will take time, and no, you can't just change rapists' way of thinking without real therapy for themselves, but you can prevent future people from turning into rapists through education.

Re: Ben Rothlesberger's Rape Case

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Originally Posted by TigerTank77 (Post 801048)

And? Again, the knowledge that said female is armed with either a stun gun or an actual gun, generally is enough to deter most people. If the idea got around that most women were armed in such a fashion, people would be less likely to fuck with them. This is a fact.

I don't see how you can predict someone becoming a rapist, especially if some are close friends and family, because no one would ever suspect them. Unless there is already a history of sexual abuse, there's not a whole lot of signs.

Honestly, the idea of attempting to create a general profile for most rapists is going to create a lot of issues. Ever hear of the Schrodinger's Rapist theory? Imagine that, amplified.

dr2005 already said most of what my response would have been. However, I'd like to point out that I never said we should introduce profiling to identify potential rapists. My point about education was that whilst educating people about how to defend themselves is good, we should also be placing a greater focus on educating people about healthy relationships and respecting other people. Rape education focuses almost entirely on teaching women how to not get raped and I think that's backwards. We don't teach kids how to not get murdered; we teach them not to be violent towards others. So why is there basically no education focusing on preventing possible rapists from trying to commit sexual assault in the first place? Unless you believe that rapists only commit sexual assault because they are genetically wired to do so, I don't see how better education could be a bad thing.