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DeletedAccount64 April 7th 2010 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hopefaithlove (Post 360457)

Common courtesy? To make your baby scream and cry because it's hungry??
I think a screamiong baby is more offputting when eating than a bit of boob showing. I would never tell a mother or imply to a mother that what they are doing is disgusting, the baby needs to feed, its NATURAL. The whole idea of breastfeeding grosses me out, but its not my baby, not my boobs, not my choice. If a mother wants to breastfeed their baby while i eat, go ahead, i just wont goggle at you, my attention will me on my meal x

Jocelyn. April 7th 2010 12:33 PM
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Wow I leave this thread for a few hours, and its gotten completely ridiculous lol. Two pages of this thread aren't even on topic, just randomly attacking people.

Anyway, I don't feel like quoting a million post so I'll just say...

Women can breastfeed discreetly in public... even though some don't agree with hiding it with a blanket, I do. It's a great way to be able to sit in public and still breastfeed without being offensive. My son didn't make obnoxious smacking sounds while breastfeeding. But, that's not even a relevant point. What about noisy sloppy eaters? They make more noise in a restaurant than a little 3 month old.

The bathroom is just not an option... Its not even about cleanliness, its about comfort. It's practically impossible to feed a baby sitting on a toilet seat. I would spend about 15 minutes just trying to get in a good position on a couch with a bunch of pillows so my son could be comfortable enough to latch on correctly.

You can't even compare masturbating and urinating in public to breastfeeding... if you could, every place would have a designated breastfeeding room. Kind of like that bathroom place that's there for you to pee and... I guess.. masturbate in.

Most mothers who are breastfeeding won't switch between bottle and breast. It can be harmful and confusing for baby. I and others have said this.

It doesnt matter if you find it beautiful or not... its a part of life. When people pick their noses or fart, its offensive to me. But, they are still going to do it in public.

Babies won't wait even 20 minutes to eat. When they are hungry you better feed them. My sons screaming will get worse and worse until he can barely breathe. Wouldnt that be worse than 15 minutes of a woman breastfeeding?

ThrashAttack April 7th 2010 01:11 PM
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Wow I leave this thread for a few hours, and its gotten completely ridiculous lol. Two pages of this thread aren't even on topic, just randomly attacking people.
I know, its great isent it :P

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BadFish (Post 360991)
Wow I leave this thread for a few hours, and its gotten completely ridiculous lol. Two pages of this thread aren't even on topic, just randomly attacking people.
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Originally Posted by BadFish (Post 360991)

Anyway, I don't feel like quoting a million post so I'll just say...

Women can breastfeed discreetly in public... even though some don't agree with hiding it with a blanket, I do. It's a great way to be able to sit in public and still breastfeed without being offensive. My son didn't make obnoxious smacking sounds while breastfeeding. But, that's not even a relevant point. What about noisy sloppy eaters? They make more noise in a restaurant than a little 3 month old.

The bathroom is just not an option... Its not even about cleanliness, its about comfort. It's practically impossible to feed a baby sitting on a toilet seat. I would spend about 15 minutes just trying to get in a good position on a couch with a bunch of pillows so my son could be comfortable enough to latch on correctly.

You can't even compare masturbating and urinating in public to breastfeeding... if you could, every place would have a designated breastfeeding room. Kind of like that bathroom place that's there for you to pee and... I guess.. masturbate in.

Most mothers who are breastfeeding won't switch between bottle and breast. It can be harmful and confusing for baby. I and others have said this.

It doesnt matter if you find it beautiful or not... its a part of life. When people pick their noses or fart, its offensive to me. But, they are still going to do it in public.

Babies won't wait even 20 minutes to eat. When they are hungry you better feed them. My sons screaming will get worse and worse until he can barely breathe. Wouldnt that be worse than 15 minutes of a woman breastfeeding?
This encompasses my thoughts exactly. :smile


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The sound bothers people?! You cannot hear a baby sucking if you're talking. It's quiet. People who are against it have very irrelevant reasoning.

topov April 7th 2010 03:39 PM
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In relation to my friend breast feeding in the restaurant, she asked when they first entered if there was any where suitable and discreet for her to nurse her baby.
They asked her to sit in a corner stall, and while she was nursing she was turned towards the window (to the beer garden, where no one was sat)
what she was doing was obvious, however not visible.... yet people still complained.

EmisaurusRex April 7th 2010 03:47 PM
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I don't have a problem with it.
Those of you who are saying babies can wait...um...babies have no concept of time. They don't understand "Hey baby, people don't want to see me feed you so you're just going to have to suck it up and wait until we get home or somewhere with no people."
They will scream and scream until they are fed. I'm pretty sure that's going to annoy/bother people more than a mother feeding her child. You don't have to look. And I realize that sometimes you don't know that they are doing it and you look that way and you are like "Woah! That wasn't expected."...at that point, just look away if it bothers you that much.
And...with the cushiony restaurant seat vs toilet seat comment...um...when you are at the seat at the table, you have somewhere to prop, unlike while sitting on a toilet in most cases. Also, like many have said...you wouldn't want to eat in the bathroom.

I don't have a problem with it. I do agree that I think you should be discreet about it and cover as much as possible.

Brandon April 7th 2010 04:07 PM
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Let me just point out that the "look away" comment is pretty weak, in my opinion. If I had an unbearable itch on my nuts and I was in public and stuck my hands in my pants and itched my nuts for a while, you would probably look away...but would it not upset you? I'm not doing anything wrong...it's not like I'm going to rub my hand up against your arm or eat my food using your fork. And sometimes we can't help having itches, so itching is natural too...just like the crying of the baby. It's hungry, so it cries. I'm itchy, so I itch.

EmisaurusRex April 7th 2010 04:11 PM
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but you are also an adult. scratching yourself and a baby crying are not comparable.

ThrashAttack April 7th 2010 04:17 PM
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scratching yourself and a baby crying are not comparable.
He wasent even making that comparrison

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrashAttack (Post 361140)
He wasent even making that comparrison
Yes he was:

"It's hungry, so it cries. I'm itchy, so I itch."

EmisaurusRex April 7th 2010 04:23 PM
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It's hungry, so it cries. I'm itchy, so I itch.

sure sounds like it to me.

ThrashAttack April 7th 2010 04:25 PM
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sure sounds like it to me
Doesent even matter anyway...

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrashAttack (Post 361146)
Doesent even matter anyway...
Now that you're wrong you're saying it doesn't matter? Those two things are so far from being comparable.

ThrashAttack April 7th 2010 04:29 PM
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ok ok, they arnt the same OK?

Blackwing April 7th 2010 04:37 PM
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Worse things happen in public people...

DeletedAccount64 April 7th 2010 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hopefaithlove (Post 361147)

Now that you're wrong you're saying it doesn't matter? Those two things are so far from being comparable.
Who cares? How did this become about what he means? It's supposed to be about breastfeeding! Get back on topic!!

Now I'll get down from my righteous high horse and find something to eat x

ThrashAttack April 7th 2010 04:38 PM
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Worse things happen in public people...
so true.....

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PunkRoxS9 (Post 361159)
Who cares? How did this become about what he means? It's supposed to be about breastfeeding! Get back on topic!!

Now I'll get down from my righteous high horse and find something to eat x
I am on topic! I'm arguing my point that a guy itching himself and a baby breastfeeding aren't comparable. But thanks for your input on the debate.

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 04:45 PM
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Worse things happen in public people...
I agree with this.

DeletedAccount64 April 7th 2010 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hopefaithlove (Post 361170)

I am on topic! I'm arguing my point that a guy itching himself and a baby breastfeeding aren't comparable. But thanks for your input on the debate.
Your welcome, it isn't my first contribution to the debate, but obviously people skimmed over my last one x

Kristen♡ April 7th 2010 04:53 PM
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Eh. Babies are a lot more... gentle and needy than adults are. If they're hungry, sure they should be fed. I do think that the mother should be a little less public, however. For example, how difficult is it to go to a restroom? Honestly. Just because the child needs to be fed women seem to think they can just flash everyone. They should really be a tad more reserved and unforthcoming about it.

C0co April 7th 2010 05:01 PM
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I personally believe that people who have a problem with women breastfeeding in public are uptight. I see nothing wrong with breastfeeding, whether it be in public or in a private matter.

Kristen♡ April 7th 2010 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by C0co (Post 361188)
I personally believe that people who have a problem with women breastfeeding in public are uptight. I see nothing wrong with breastfeeding, whether it be in public or in a private matter.
I myself don't have a problem with breastfeeding, I see it often actually. But some people do, and they are probably more sensitive to it. Similar to how some people are triggered more easily than others.

her_beautiful_mistake April 7th 2010 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kristen. (Post 361180)
Eh. Babies are a lot more... gentle and needy than adults are. If they're hungry, sure they should be fed. I do think that the mother should be a little less public, however. For example, how difficult is it to go to a restroom? Honestly. Just because the child needs to be fed women seem to think they can just flash everyone. They should really be a tad more reserved and unforthcoming about it.
This question has been answered over and over

1) It is difficult to breastfeed sat on a toilet or stood up. The mother needs to be a reasonably comfortable position for the baby to be able to latch on properly and breastfeeding can take a long time sometimes. It's not practically viable to do this in a toilet stall.

2) Toilets in general are a lot less clean than other areas. There are dangerous bacteria and germs that could harm a baby, especially considering the fact that a baby has a weaker immune system than older children and adults.

her_beautiful_mistake April 7th 2010 05:12 PM
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Once again I have to say that most objections seem to be down to ignorance. Have you ever seen a woman breastfeeding? You can hardly see any breast at all. Especially if the woman is wearing a breastfeeding top you literally won't see anything. Even if you stare.

EG. http://ainulners.files.wordpress.com...ursing-top.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/diyfashion/1/0/...ursing_top.jpg

Seriously now? You can't be objecting due to the fact you'll see breast. You must just have a problem with breastfeeding in general?

You'll see far more breast walking around a town on a sunny day when people get their low cut tops out!

her_beautiful_mistake April 7th 2010 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kristen. (Post 361193)

I myself don't have a problem with breastfeeding, I see it often actually. But some people do, and they are probably more sensitive to it. Similar to how some people are triggered more easily than others.
But the world isn't here to protect those people who are very sensitive, just like it isn't here to protect those who are triggered easily.

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by her_beautiful_mistake (Post 361197)
But the world isn't here to protect those people who are very sensitive, just like it isn't here to protect those who are triggered easily.
I agree with this. Everyone runs into triggers and things that they are sensitive to. They can't be eliminated. People need to learn to deal with those things.

Breastfeeding is a natural and necessary part of life for a lot of people.

C0co April 7th 2010 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kristen. (Post 361193)

I myself don't have a problem with breastfeeding, I see it often actually. But some people do, and they are probably more sensitive to it. Similar to how some people are triggered more easily than others.
I just think that the reason why some people are so uptight about seeing breastfeeding in public is because over the years it has been shoved in peoples brains that breasts are no more than sexual objects and serve no other purpose.

Kristen♡ April 7th 2010 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by her_beautiful_mistake (Post 361194)
This question has been answered over and over

1) It is difficult to breastfeed sat on a toilet or stood up. The mother needs to be a reasonably comfortable position for the baby to be able to latch on properly and breastfeeding can take a long time sometimes. It's not practically viable to do this in a toilet stall.

2) Toilets in general are a lot less clean than other areas. There are dangerous bacteria and germs that could harm a baby, especially considering the fact that a baby has a weaker immune system than older children and adults.
I understand this as well, which is why I say that the women should be more reserved. Not all women are "flashy" (For a lack of a better word) but those who are could contain themselves more.

Kristen♡ April 7th 2010 05:30 PM
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I just think that the reason why some people are so uptight about seeing breastfeeding in public is because over the years it has been shoved in peoples brains that breasts are no more than sexual objects and serve no other purpose.
I couldn't agree more.

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by C0co (Post 361205)


I just think that the reason why some people are so uptight about seeing breastfeeding in public is because over the years it has been shoved in peoples brains that breasts are no more than sexual objects and serve no other purpose.
That is very true.

Jocelyn. April 7th 2010 05:34 PM
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I just think that the reason why some people are so uptight about seeing breastfeeding in public is because over the years it has been shoved in peoples brains that breasts are no more than sexual objects and serve no other purpose.
I think that settles the debate right there :p

Brandon April 7th 2010 06:17 PM
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I just think that the reason why some people are so uptight about seeing breastfeeding in public is because over the years it has been shoved in peoples brains that breasts are no more than sexual objects and serve no other purpose.
I can -kind of- agree with you, but not completely. Yes, over the years...boobs have been made into sex objects. But that also includes the whole female body and the male body as well. But yes, boobs do represent more of a sexual object. HOWEVER, there's a difference between breast feeding and breast feeding in public. Breastfeeding...that's completely natural. Like everything else, it has health risks but hey, it's your baby. But breast feeding in public? That's potentially a very awkward situation for someone (most likely a male, since I haven't really seen a female in here complain about breastfeeding:p) who isn't used to seeing a woman breast feed a child in public.

L'espoir April 7th 2010 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon (Post 361260)
But breast feeding in public? That's potentially a very awkward situation for someone (most likely a male, since I haven't really seen a female in here complain about breastfeeding:p) who isn't used to seeing a woman breast feed a child in public.
This might come off sounding a bit rude but to be honest who really cares if it makes a few guys feel akward?! Like I said before, loads of things make different people feel awkward but it doesn't mean they shouldn't happen. If you feel awkward, don't look, simple as. Why should a few men feeling awkward stop women from being able to breastfeed in public?

ThrashAttack April 7th 2010 08:22 PM
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Why should a few men feeling awkward stop women from being able to breastfeed in public?
I have no problems with woeman Breast feeding in public

L'espoir April 7th 2010 08:34 PM
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I have no problems with woeman Breast feeding in public
Yes but Brandon said the reason women shouldn't breastfeed in public was because it might make some people feel awkward...

Brandon April 7th 2010 09:24 PM
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This might come off sounding a bit rude but to be honest who really cares if it makes a few guys feel akward?! Like I said before, loads of things make different people feel awkward but it doesn't mean they shouldn't happen. If you feel awkward, don't look, simple as. Why should a few men feeling awkward stop women from being able to breastfeed in public?
You don't have to look to be in an awkward situation. For instance...my friends and I one time went to Waffle House where a crack whore was standing outside. She smelled like baby powder. She stood next to the entrance and asked for money, and when I continued walking inside, she called me a white boy. SO, my friends and I get our food...and she comes inside and just stares at me for a couple minutes. Doesn't say anything. I'm eating my waffles, enjoying my food, and I have a crack whore staring at me. She wasn't close by, but I'd keep looking and she'd be staring at me. If I didn't look, nothing would change the fact that she's still there looking at me. Looking away from a woman breastfeeding wouldn't do anything. The woman is still there, you acknowledge that she is there breastfeeding...you just continue to look in another direction. That acknowledgment isn't going to change anything, the only difference is that you're not looking at her. If you don't understand, let me put it in another concept:

Suppose you're sitting at a restaurant and you see these two dudes huddled up in a corner. You're pretty sure that they're making out, but you can't tell exactly what they're doing besides kissing. Would you just look away? Probably. Would it be awkward and would you still acknowledge that they are still there, making out and possibly touching each other even if you aren't looking at them? You can't clearly see what they're doing, and they're not doing anything to you, so if you'd be uncomfortable around them, why would you? If you're not used to seeing two dudes make out and touch each other in a restaurant, then it would be awkward and looking away isn't going to solve your problems.

Markteenhelp April 7th 2010 09:24 PM
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Im not personally offended by it or have anything wrong with it but if you involve my opinion wiht others yeah there is a problem with it. There are bathrooms like said before and if you dont want to go to a bathroom or cover you and your baby they make pumps to bottle the milk and that way you dont have to breast feed. Children see it could get wrong idea or just a perv could be a perv.

hopefaithlove April 7th 2010 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fangs-Of-Sang (Post 361417)
Im not personally offended by it or have anything wrong with it but if you involve my opinion wiht others yeah there is a problem with it. There are bathrooms like said before and if you dont want to go to a bathroom or cover you and your baby they make pumps to bottle the milk and that way you dont have to breast feed. Children see it could get wrong idea or just a perv could be a perv.
Your signature quote is in my avatar. :smile

Anyway, I agree that covering is a simple way to make breastfeeding in public more acceptable.

The other two things that you said are not always about to be done. Bathrooms have way to many germs floating around for a baby with an undeveloped immune system to be eating in. Not only that, but it would be very uncomfortable for the mom to find a way to sit and feed the baby.

The issue with the bottle is that a lot of women who are breastfeeding don't want to confuse the baby. A bottle could be confusing and then they baby could begin to refuse the breast.

L'espoir April 7th 2010 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon (Post 361415)
You don't have to look to be in an awkward situation. For instance...my friends and I one time went to Waffle House where a crack whore was standing outside. She smelled like baby powder. She stood next to the entrance and asked for money, and when I continued walking inside, she called me a white boy. SO, my friends and I get our food...and she comes inside and just stares at me for a couple minutes. Doesn't say anything. I'm eating my waffles, enjoying my food, and I have a crack whore staring at me. She wasn't close by, but I'd keep looking and she'd be staring at me. If I didn't look, nothing would change the fact that she's still there looking at me. Looking away from a woman breastfeeding wouldn't do anything. The woman is still there, you acknowledge that she is there breastfeeding...you just continue to look in another direction. That acknowledgment isn't going to change anything, the only difference is that you're not looking at her. If you don't understand, let me put it in another concept:

Suppose you're sitting at a restaurant and you see these two dudes huddled up in a corner. You're pretty sure that they're making out, but you can't tell exactly what they're doing besides kissing. Would you just look away? Probably. Would it be awkward and would you still acknowledge that they are still there, making out and possibly touching each other even if you aren't looking at them? You can't clearly see what they're doing, and they're not doing anything to you, so if you'd be uncomfortable around them, why would you? If you're not used to seeing two dudes make out and touch each other in a restaurant, then it would be awkward and looking away isn't going to solve your problems.
I reeeeaaaaallllyyyy don't see how you can compare a "crack whore" as you so nicely put it, with a woman breastfeeding? I didn't say looking away would make you unaware of what was happening I just meant that if it's so awkward for you then you don't need to look at it.

If I was uncomfortable with two guys making out (which I wouldn't be, it was just a random example that I used earlier) then that's my problem just like it's the mans problem if he is uncomfortable with a woman breastfeeding. Just because I was uncomfortable with them kissing doesn't mean they should have to stop or that they were wrong to be kissing. Just because a man is uncomfortable with a woman breastfeeding doesn't mean she should have to stop or is wrong for doing it.


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