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Sammichez October 28th 2013 01:43 AM

Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
Source: http://www.advocate.com/business/201...trans-campaign

I don't want to live on this planet anymore :glare:.

Captain_jack October 28th 2013 02:16 AM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
wow, won't be buying them any more >.<

Jess~ October 28th 2013 04:34 AM

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Eh. I'll still buy em. Starbucks is for gay rights, don't see any homophobes stop gettin coffee.

Nightblood. October 28th 2013 05:41 AM

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It looks like it's just Jelly Belly so it's not all brands of jelly beans?

DeletedAccount71 October 28th 2013 05:42 AM

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I never liked jelly beans, anyway.

Coffee. October 28th 2013 07:32 AM

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Well, I know what I'm not getting my boyfriend for Valentines day this year. That's unfortunate, being that it's his favorite candy. D:

Sammichez October 28th 2013 11:16 AM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
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Originally Posted by Moon Moon (Post 1076412)
It looks like it's just Jelly Belly so it's not all brands of jelly beans?

I hope it's not all brands of jelly beans *).

MegaMadness October 28th 2013 01:23 PM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
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Originally Posted by Sailor Scout Abigail (Post 1076434)


I hope it's not all brands of jelly beans *).

It's not. It is just that brand.

WhisperingSilence October 28th 2013 03:28 PM

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Yeah Jelly belly never tasted good.. Seems a-bit odd to donate to a anti trans campagin, It's not like the campagin will succeed if anything it will just cause arguments and discrimation claims being made.

Lelola October 28th 2013 05:14 PM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
Here's a question... Was it the CEO's money that he donated to the cause he supports or was it the company's money? If it is was his own money, then so what? You cannot have everyone agree with the same thing and he should be allowed to spend his money how he sees fit including supporting political campaigns.

It sounds like it is how own personal money and not the company's. Therefore, I think it is silly refuse to ever eat Jelly Beans again because the CEO doesn't agree with my own political values. I still eat Chick-Fil-A food because it tastes good and the average joe that works at the company probably could care less what their CEO/whatever believes. It's a job or a career for them and a way to make ends meet.

Let him spend his money how he wants.

In fact, I work at a hospital that is part of a larger religious group and I am an atheist. I do not agree with all of their policies, but it is a career that pays very well for me.

Peanut~ October 28th 2013 10:12 PM

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As far as I can tell, it was his personal money, not the companies money, so, what is the problem? It is not company money, and therefore not company policy. This reminds me of the Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy, except I think in that case it was company money/views not the personal money/views of one of the owners. Will I stop buying them? No (not that I buy jelly beans of any type very often).

Adam the Fish October 30th 2013 12:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut~ (Post 1076574)
As far as I can tell, it was his personal money, not the companies money, so, what is the problem? It is not company money, and therefore not company policy. This reminds me of the Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy, except I think in that case it was company money/views not the personal money/views of one of the owners. Will I stop buying them? No (not that I buy jelly beans of any type very often).

I think it's relevant on the grounds of his money probably coming from his company anyway. Regardless, what he's doing is, to my mind, morally wrong and therefore - where there is an alternative to supporting him - we may as well take ot.

I'm not overly keen on jelly beans anyway, but an anti-[group of people] campaign seems pretty disgusting to me.

LlamaLlamaDuck October 30th 2013 01:24 PM

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That's a shame, Jelly Belly are the only jelly beans I'll eat. D: That being said, I agree with those saying that it was that guy's own money and not the company's, so it shouldn't affect anything related to his business. People are allowed their own interests/opinions outside of their professional lives, their businesses shouldn't be penalised for that.

But yes, I agree he's an asshole. What kind of person in a rainbow-filled profession can be against anything LGBT? :o

Coffee. October 30th 2013 05:54 PM

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He made his money from that company. I'd rather support other people; the dollar is the most important vote.

Skeleton October 30th 2013 06:28 PM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
I hate jelly beans anyway but even so, it wouldn't stop me from buying them if I did. If he wants to spend his own personal money on such things then so be it. He may have gotten that money from his company but it's still his own personal money, it's not like the Jelly Bean brand itself is covered in anti-trans slogans, if so then I would be more pissed off.

There is plenty of arseholes in the world with this view that we should be against LGBT and everything that comes with it, one more doesn't make a difference. I believe eventually, this will all be a thing of the past.

Sammichez October 30th 2013 08:08 PM

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Probably my favorite comment on the article:

Quote:

That's a face that says "I put each one of these candies into my mouth before I return them to the manufacturing line."

Kraziee65 October 30th 2013 11:32 PM

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Well, I'm not going to say this guy is a jerk and what he did was wrong, because that would be hypocritical. I do bad stuff too, so does the rest of the world. No one has a perfect morality. However, what he did was distasteful. I support LGBT rights even though I don't really think getting a sex change is a good idea. Not because it plays with god, but because it takes a lot of time, money, and effort to successfully get one. Also, I hate these "Anti" groups. Anti-gays Anti-trans Anti- anything, they're all jerks. I'm boycotting chick-fil-a for supporting Anti-gay groups, and now I'm boycotting This company, for supporting anti-tran groups.

Sammichez October 31st 2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kraziee65 (Post 1076990)
I support LGBT rights even though I don't really think getting a sex change is a good idea. Not because it plays with god, but because it takes a lot of time, money, and effort to successfully get one.

The same could be said for getting a house or having a child. Just sayin' :nosweat:.

Kraziee65 October 31st 2013 02:12 AM

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That is.... absolutely true. Never thought about it that way.
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The same could be said for getting a house or having a child. Just sayin'

perkele November 7th 2013 07:52 PM

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After the whole Chic-fil-A controversy went down, I would think more people would've come to the realization that these "UGH BIGOTS" type of boycotts are petty, pointless and often backfire. The people who support the Jelly Belly CEO's decision will hear about this and start buying Jelly Belly's products en masse, just like they did when Chic-fil-A's president made that statement about gay marriage. Do the math: trans people are about 0.02% of the population, and Christians are upwards of 75%. Which side realistically (i.e. outside of Tumblr) comprises the overwhelming majority? Sorry, but you're under-leveled for this fight and even the splash damage alone is enough to one-shot you. GG.

And don't think for a minute that the "Jelly Beans are anti-trans" line won't get found and ridiculed by the right-wing sites and further their cause. It only lends validation to the conservative claim that the social justice brigade is petty and childish.

Spicy_ November 15th 2013 12:56 AM

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Companies are all titles to their own opinions and with so much topics in the media right now I bet there will be more and more companies that take a strong stand; being that I support this and (gay marriage in general) this would make me think twice about buying jelly belly; but they are very heavenly beans... >.>

Lelola November 15th 2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Prof.Engrish (Post 1079737)
Companies are all titles to their own opinions and with so much topics in the media right now I bet there will be more and more companies that take a strong stand; being that I support this and (gay marriage in general) this would make me think twice about buying jelly belly; but they are very heavenly beans... >.>

Do you think that the CEO should be punished for his own personal beliefs that he spent his own personal money on? I don't.

i_like_black November 16th 2013 02:07 AM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
Well, here's my two cents:

Just because his personal money is earned through this company, doesn't mean the company can dictate who and what he donates to. He's a human being, with his own beliefs and things to stand for, and he's allowed to be anti-trans in the same way I'm allowed to be pro-trans. So long as his support isn't hurting anybody, or suppressing anybody, or affecting who he'll hire, then it's his money, and his choice.

Recently I heard that a mayor in Canada has been caught smoking cocaine. That directly affects his decision making, so it's important. This CEO's own personal biases have little to do with his work life, and therefore should be left alone.

And, finally, those jelly beans are the expensive ones anyway. I always go for Pascall jelly beans, because in my opinion, they're the tastiest, and they're also far cheaper than Jelly Belly jelly beans.

I just think it's wrong of us to judge this guy. He's not misappropriating funds, he's not hurting people, he's simply donating to a cause that lines up with what he believes. I also think that what he's donating to could quite possibly lead to a better alternative - purpose built bathrooms for those whose gender identity does not align with their physical gender (sex), or unisex bathrooms. Because to be quite honest, if I went into a female bathroom, and there was a male in there who I did not know, my first reaction wouldn't be to assume that he's trans - my first reaction would be to think he's there doing something inappropriate. Gender identity would not be a conclusion I would jump to.

I wouldn't donate to the same cause, I'm just saying maybe there's a better alternative, and that the money he's donating, whilst it does not line up with my own personal ideals, could somehow contribute to that better alternative.

:)

Spicy_ November 18th 2013 05:40 AM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
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Originally Posted by Sarasa (Post 1079844)
Do you think that the CEO should be punished for his own personal beliefs that he spent his own personal money on? I don't.

No I strongly am against any repercussions done against him. The CEO has his right to believe what he wants to and express his opinions.

I actually envy him for taking up and standing for what he believes in while others don't voice their views.

Lelola November 19th 2013 08:48 PM

Re: Jelly Beans are anti-trans.
 
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Originally Posted by Prof.Engrish (Post 1080279)


No I strongly am against any repercussions done against him. The CEO has his right to believe what he wants to and express his opinions.

I actually envy him for taking up and standing for what he believes in while others don't voice their views.

I don't really count it as standing up. I think it's more he donated money to causes. Thousands of people donate money to similar causes without actively voicing their opinions. It just happened someone noticed his name on a log from what I can tell. It's not like Chick-fil-A.


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