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Psychologists working with the police - August 11th 2009, 09:46 PM

Well I've been watching some crime thrillers and I've always been interested in psychology and I've thought about working with the police before so I thought this job could be interesting.

What would be the best thing to study in University? And would taking psychology with criminology help me get into this field of work?

Does anyone have any information about being a psychologist working with the police? Links or book suggestions would be helpful too. I guess I'm trying to work out what to do with my life now rather than later.
   
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Re: Psychologists working with the police - August 11th 2009, 10:48 PM

I think you would want to look into forensic Psychology but I am not 100% sure. Here is a link that might give you more information of forensic psychology (http://www.wcupa.edu/_academics/sch_cas.psy/career_paths/forensic/career08.htm) if it doesn't work for some reason just google forensic psychology.

If you are really interested in this field of study go talk to a counselor at your High school and they should be able to give you a little more information. If you know someone who is a therapist they might also be able to supply you with websites and books to look into.

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Re: Psychologists working with the police - August 12th 2009, 09:08 AM

i used to want to be a criminal psychologist.. then i realised i'm probably not clever enough taking psychology with criminology sounds pretty good to me.. or just straight psychology.


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Re: Psychologists working with the police - August 12th 2009, 09:23 AM

In September I'll be taking a 3rd year psych. course in forensic psychology so I can hopefully give your more detail later on. But, as for what you want, I would take psychology, sociology, criminology and maybe some law. Philosophy may also be decent to take. For psychology though, you'll need to know some statistics so you'll likely need a course in that. Psychology does offer some courses that are combined with law but I suspect that having some law courses provides you with some extra knowledge for law enforcement.

You can either work for the police or you can work for a more federal branch (i.e. you can work for the police or FBI). I'm not sure what the equivalent of that is for the UK. However, you'll probably need to take some basic training in policework if you are to be more in the field. However, you probably won't need to same physical training as the officers do but probably enough to handle a firearm if you're in the field.

Some books that may interest you are:

1) Mindhunter - Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker. This is a book written by real ex-FBI profilers (John Douglas is a very famous one as he helped revolutionize profiling). The book goes through his life, cases, etc...
2) Without Conscience - The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us by Dr. Robert Hare. This is a good book because psychopaths are a prominent population in prisons/jails and many are not in custody. The forensic psychology and law-psych. courses deal with some of this so it'd be a good thing to read up on. Don't confuse it with ASPD or DPD.

You can try to grab some books possibly about serial killers as it's always an interesting read. Some are garbage but one great one (used in some universities or colleges) is The A to Z Encyclopedia of Serial Killers by Harold Schecter and David Everitt. It gives immense detail about the serial killers but it also gives insight to their psychological profiles. You may not deal with numerous serial killers but these are some of the cream-of-the-crop, some of the most fascinating to try to understand.

I know the education systems between Canada and the UK are rather different but from University of Toronto the courses needed for a specialist in forensic psychology (the actual program) and for a few don't ask why they're there, I don't know why. It's too long to type out so here's the link: http://www.erin.utoronto.ca/regcal/WEBGROUP89.html
Here's a link for the criminology department: http://www.wdw.utoronto.ca/index.php...logy/overview/
   
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Re: Psychologists working with the police - August 12th 2009, 09:34 AM

I'm hoping to study Psychology at uni, and go into the police with it. The best thign about doing straight Psychology is that you can choose your modules. Like for me I'd be choosing forsensic/criminal Psychology as well as educational/child development because I'm interested in working with children at some point.

Have a look at a few university courses in Psychology and Forensic Psychology, most will say what modules they do and also possible careers that can follow.


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Re: Psychologists working with the police - August 12th 2009, 08:35 PM

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In September I'll be taking a 3rd year psych. course in forensic psychology so I can hopefully give your more detail later on. But, as for what you want, I would take psychology, sociology, criminology and maybe some law. Philosophy may also be decent to take. For psychology though, you'll need to know some statistics so you'll likely need a course in that. Psychology does offer some courses that are combined with law but I suspect that having some law courses provides you with some extra knowledge for law enforcement.

You can either work for the police or you can work for a more federal branch (i.e. you can work for the police or FBI). I'm not sure what the equivalent of that is for the UK. However, you'll probably need to take some basic training in policework if you are to be more in the field. However, you probably won't need to same physical training as the officers do but probably enough to handle a firearm if you're in the field.

Some books that may interest you are:

1) Mindhunter - Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime Unit by John Douglas and Mark Olshaker. This is a book written by real ex-FBI profilers (John Douglas is a very famous one as he helped revolutionize profiling). The book goes through his life, cases, etc...
2) Without Conscience - The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us by Dr. Robert Hare. This is a good book because psychopaths are a prominent population in prisons/jails and many are not in custody. The forensic psychology and law-psych. courses deal with some of this so it'd be a good thing to read up on. Don't confuse it with ASPD or DPD.

You can try to grab some books possibly about serial killers as it's always an interesting read. Some are garbage but one great one (used in some universities or colleges) is The A to Z Encyclopedia of Serial Killers by Harold Schecter and David Everitt. It gives immense detail about the serial killers but it also gives insight to their psychological profiles. You may not deal with numerous serial killers but these are some of the cream-of-the-crop, some of the most fascinating to try to understand.

I know the education systems between Canada and the UK are rather different but from University of Toronto the courses needed for a specialist in forensic psychology (the actual program) and for a few don't ask why they're there, I don't know why. It's too long to type out so here's the link: http://www.erin.utoronto.ca/regcal/WEBGROUP89.html
Here's a link for the criminology department: http://www.wdw.utoronto.ca/index.php...logy/overview/
In the UK you pick only one University course, you do not mix them as you do in Canada/USA. Ie, if you do a degree in psychology, you will study only psychology.


I'd recommend psychology with criminology though I'd talk to your careers adviser/connexions officer
   
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Re: Psychologists working with the police - August 13th 2009, 05:37 PM

I now know that I want to be a Criminal Psychologist. I really would like to work with the FBI but that's in America so would I need to go and study over there or would getting qualifications from a University in England be okay?
Also, would studying psychology with criminology suit this career choice?
Any extra information about criminal psychology would be helpful, I've looked in career books but they don't have any specific information for criminal psychologists. I'm going to see my careers adviser at school once we go back but I'm just looking for any information about it before then.
   
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Re: Psychologists working with the police - August 13th 2009, 07:08 PM

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I now know that I want to be a Criminal Psychologist. I really would like to work with the FBI but that's in America so would I need to go and study over there or would getting qualifications from a University in England be okay?
Also, would studying psychology with criminology suit this career choice?
Any extra information about criminal psychology would be helpful, I've looked in career books but they don't have any specific information for criminal psychologists. I'm going to see my careers adviser at school once we go back but I'm just looking for any information about it before then.
Is there a England version of the FBI? If there is, you may be able to stay within England if that appeals to you more.

You could study it in England, however, there's no guaruntee that a university in North America would accept all your courses. They may accept some or most of them but you may need to re-do some in North America.

If you'd want to work for the FBI then you'd need to do their test(s) iand special training n order to be accepted. This special training wouldn't matter where you're from, you'd still need to do it and pass whatever tests.

I'd imagine that if you did get a doctorate in England, then that probably would be acceptable in the US also. If you get only a Bachelor's in England then you need more then that in order to be a criminal psychologist, in which case you can study in America. But if you study criminal psychology or psychology and criminology in England, that should be good enough.
   
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