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Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 30th 2012, 04:32 PM

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I watched this a few days ago. I need to ask Twilight fans something, why do people love Edward? He's horrible :| Bella's pregnant and he's TELLING her to get rid of it :| :| :| :| I know he's scared that she may die but I think she has more right to decide what to do more than him.

Also, how are they so shocked that she's pregnant? O____O Surely a human has gotten pregnant by a vampire before O____O This can't be the first time it has happened :| :| You had unprotected sex, you idiots >____< What did you expect would happen? :|

I haven't watched all the films in order so I'm not entirely sure what I've missed out but surely they've mentioned pregnancy with vampires/humans before.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 30th 2012, 04:39 PM

It's supposed to be a good thing that he's telling her to get rid of it, he's worried for her safety. This also makes Bella look awesome in comparison, she gets to reinforce to the pro-life message out the wazoo.

And before the Bella/Edward thing, any decent vampire (even Emmett, as it's alluded to) would have just eaten Bella, not slept with her. Even if it did happen before, it's not like the mom usually survived to protect her little half-baby, and your expected to believe the dads just left both for dead.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 30th 2012, 04:45 PM

I just felt really uncomfortable watching it. Abortion is such a taboo topic and has such an adult theme yet TWILIGHT of all things decides to bring it up Jesus.

I'm not even pro-life but I'm offended :| I'm offended that this was even brought up.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 30th 2012, 05:08 PM

I think you're taking Twilight a little too seriously. It's not like it's a normal birth, it's basically a romantic reinactment of Alien.
   
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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 30th 2012, 07:36 PM

I don't know why it annoyed me so much but it did :/ It's like Paris Hilton in a film about the KKK. She knows the same about the KKK as Twilight knows about abortion.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 30th 2012, 07:59 PM

Yes, abortion is an adult topic, but its not like Twilight is a children's book.




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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 12:36 AM

but they don't know what they're talking about :| They COULD make it interesting but they barely even discuss it properly, Edward just says he wants that "thing" out of her. I'm not saying we shouldn't discuss abortion in films but do it with a bit of care and grace.

I just didn't expect the subject of abortion to come up in a freaking Twilight film.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 12:42 AM

Read the book, it's all explained a bit better in there.




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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 12:51 AM

Yeah, like they thought vampires were infertile anyway, hence the unprotected sex.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 02:00 AM

Okay, you might now know this, but it wasn't that common for a human and a vampire to mate (vampires would eat them before that happened) besides, Rosalee and Emmet (probably not spelling their names right, but whatever) tried, but couldn't achieve anything because Rosalee can't have babies because she's a vampire, and they assumed the same for the guys, so it was a shock.

Edward was worried about Bella because the baby isn't something they've known about before, so who knew what was going to happen? They didn't. They only found out it happened before because of the voulturi's visit.

-.-' I'm assuming I went past the movie you were talking about, because I didn't watch it, so I don't know....


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 02:15 AM

Okay. So. Let me explain this to you. If we're going to over think this, I'll give you a thoughtful response. Vampire lack blood of their own. Hence why they're pale and cold. We all know that you need blood to survice. Fiction. Also, you need blood to get a boner. Which, if this were a true story, Edwardo wouldn't get one, making it real hard to achieve intercourse. Fiction. And if if Edwardo couldn't get a boner and doesn't have blood, he couldn't ejaculate (I assume). Fiction. Point I'm trying to make is that this is purely FICTIONAL

Edward doesn't want Bella to have her child because it was physically destroying her. She was dying. And it took Edwardo soooo many years to find the love of his life. And the fact that the baby was destroying the love of his life, Bella trumps baby vamp. He would rather have the child dead than his true love. And the fact that Edward thinks being a vampire is horrible and that vampires are monsters, he doesn't want to bring another one into this world. They didn't even know what was even growing inside Bella.


Twilight is not to be taken as seriously as you're taking it.
It's probably best you don't watch the movies if you get as offended by them as you do.

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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 03:05 AM

The book explains it better than the movie but Edward gets angry about it and want's it out of her because he thinks it will turn out to be a monster. Apparently it is very rare for vampires to be fertile or whatever and for the Cullen's it was unheard of. The only time there were baby vampires was when they were made and they were horrible little monsters. So of course he would be afraid of what the baby would turn out to be. In the end he did take Bella's side and if I'm not mistaken Jacob was even worse about it. Anyways it is just a movie lol so don't take it too seriously. I pretty much agree with Lyndsee word for word.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 05:13 AM

I feel ashamed writing this but I actually saw that movie a few weeks ago. It was my first Twilight movie (never read the books either) and I went with a friend and we had to chose between this or Jack and Jill. Ugh.
I don't know what's with the ;|

There first move should have been figuring out the best way to kill it. I mean for real you get pregnant with a monster, you're dying and you're getting all maternal. What an idiot.

I know from pop culture that the two main guys are supposed to fight over the one who doesn't smile but seriously, I couldn't help thinking what a complete slut she was! If I were Edward and my wife was a) laying on another guy, telling him how much she cares about him b) contemplating naming our child after him I would have just sucked her dry and left her in a pile on the floor the stupid slurry!

And as for the whole abortion thing, I felt the obnoxious pro life message uncomfortable. I don't know how you could watch that movie and feel they were actually ever considering abortion when the pro life message was about as subtle as a sledge hammer.

It even had the line (I'm paraphrasing here): "IT'S A BABY NOT A FETUS". LOL.

That and the no sex before marriage thing, I could have been watching an ad for the church had it not been for the awkward vamp sexual tension and the fact that the lead girl was a whore.


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 05:28 AM

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I couldn't help thinking what a complete slut she was! If I were Edward and my wife was a) laying on another guy, telling him how much she cares about him b) contemplating naming our child after him I would have just sucked her dry and left her in a pile on the floor the stupid slurry!

That and the no sex before marriage thing, I could have been watching an ad for the church had it not been for the awkward vamp sexual tension and the fact that the lead girl was a whore.
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that kissing two boys and never having sex until you were married makes one a slut. Or that considering naming one's child after one's best friend who was there for you when you were in deep depression makes one a whore.

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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 05:55 AM

Quick & simple answer: first of all, the book discusses all of that. You should try reading it before the last movie comes out, so you'll be less confused. Secondly, abortion happens every day, ESPECIALLY when it's to save the mother's life. I haven't seen the movie, but I read the book, & Edward was concerned about Bella. Also, they had no idea what kind of kid that would be since they had never heard of it happening.
   
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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 09:53 AM

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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that kissing two boys and never having sex until you were married makes one a slut. Or that considering naming one's child after one's best friend who was there for you when you were in deep depression makes one a whore.

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Kissing two boys and not having sex until you're married doesn't make you a whore. Fawning over a boy while you're married to a different one makes you a whore.

You really wouldn't think your husband was a bit of a man slut if he wanted to name your child after an old flame of his?


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 03:56 PM

Marguerite: Try reading all the other books and watch all the other movies before making a critique.
Because right now, you're missing a ton of background info


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Re: Questions about Twilight - Breaking Dawn - Part 1 - January 31st 2012, 05:58 PM

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Kissing two boys and not having sex until you're married doesn't make you a whore. Fawning over a boy while you're married to a different one makes you a whore.

You really wouldn't think your husband was a bit of a man slut if he wanted to name your child after an old flame of his?
What you're missing is that he was never her flame. He liked her, the feelings were not mutual. Something to do with loving Edward so much more....

The movies are a dire representation of a decent novel. A common tragedy but not something I feel any issue should be taken seriously in.

I haven't actually seen this yet, my mind's wondering what else they will have royally messed up.


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