8th grade teacher tells student to "carve deeper next time"

[Kumagoro]

Originally Posted by Casey

This is messed up. You don't tell that to a kid.

you don't tell that to anyone. What a sick, heartless teacher.

[wanderlust]

i cant help but feel a teensy bit sorry for him....i bet he feels really stupid for saying that (as he should, seriously what kind of social rules was he following??)

[Gidig]

Originally Posted by Hi_ImJordan

I'm still agreeing with Big Mole and the other chick; suicide is indeed one of the most selfish things that a person can attempt. NOT TO MENTION, it is infuriating to see someone strutting around and showing off their suicide attempts and cutting prowess like it makes them cool. This is especially true if you are one of the many people who suffer from depression and other problems and either:

a) don't talk about it as if it makes you interestng

b) deal with it in an acceptable way

So it's okay for a teacher to stoop to the kid's level? Regardless of whatever the kid did, it didn't make what the teacher did okay.
Plus, as I've mentioned before, what affect did this have on OTHER kids who self harm in that class? That ARENT showing it off.

Originally Posted by wanderlust

i cant help but feel a teensy bit sorry for him....i bet he feels really stupid for saying that (as he should, seriously what kind of social rules was he following??)

I don't think everyone should worry about following social rules, and I think that's the least of the problem with this whole situation.

[Pizza Slut]

Originally Posted by x_nicola

Arghhh, reading that made me so mad. Listen, attention seeking or not, why mock it? Even if they ARE doing it for attention, they're STILL hurting themselves and STILL putting their lives in danger. And who are we to decide who's attention seeking or not?

An eight grade suicidal kid is going to take something like that to heart. And what if there was another suicidal kid in the class? What if the lack of respect for this kid, pushed some other kid over the edge?

What that teacher did was completely and utterly WRONG. You don't joke about something like that. And why not? Because it's not FUNNY.

I'm glad you posted this, it's exactly how I feel except I wouldn't have been able to put it into words.

Originally Posted by thebigmole

ah khadra. well my lack of compassion may be disgusting but suicide is even more digusting. first its not more selfish to want someone to actually go on with their life. you see in that situation the person is actually thinking about other people. but when one comitts suicide they are thinking about no one but themselves. they may say that their family would be better off without them but thats bull they just want to get out of their pain the easy way. suicide is a horrible act and anyone that comitts it or tries is far worse than me and my lack of compassion. i find it hard to believe that the pain a person who commits suicide feels is anything like the pain they inflict on those they leave behind especially since their pain is over because they're dead. selfish.

But in this case the teacher has just told the boy to go and cut deeper, surely that would make the boy feel like he's not wanted alive so would probably make him more inclined to think nobody else does?

[thebigmole]

Originally Posted by Boo Ghost

But in this case the teacher has just told the boy to go and cut deeper, surely that would make the boy feel like he's not wanted alive so would probably make him more inclined to think nobody else does?

No I get that I do and I did say the the teacher saying it was wrong. The timing was wrong and unless this teacher has an unusually close relationship with this student the person saying it was wrong.

[Hi_ImJordan]

[quote=Gidig;136835]
Plus, as I've mentioned before, what affect did this have on OTHER kids who self harm in that class? That ARENT showing it off.


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If i'd have been a kid in that class who also had cutting problems, I would have been angry about the other kid showing off, and probably would have told him something similar to what the teacher said.

[boob_s]

Originally Posted by Exelus

Say what?

I'm sorry... My brain is having problems comprehending this level of ignorance.

Wow. I can understand a lapse in judgment, but this guy is fricking stupid. He should probably be electroshocked for his own good. It might prevent another case like this, because he was obviously out of his right mind.

this says it all...i can't even understand how this could even possibly have been misunderstood or taken out of context...even if he was joking you shoulnt EVER "joke" about suicide

he should have been fired or in the very least susspended without pay for a year or more ..... gah people just have no common sence these days...

stupid teachers who think or rather DON'T think before they say something that could hurt a student should not be payed for a year and have to take some class to teach them to STFU or auctually try or pretend in the very least that they care


i know this is a ramble and prob just doesnt make sence but this stuff just gets under my skin

[xoxtammixox]

What the hell would ever bring someone to talk to another person like that exspecially a teacher! Why were they hired in the first place! That is so heartless so cold! I... I... I don't even know what else to say to that...

[franz1]

Originally Posted by wheelersoftball17

Un-fucking-believable.

People disgust me.

you took the words right out of my mouth..