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Questions about Mohammed - May 4th 2015, 06:19 AM

So I finished my Religion 101 exploring religions course and my teacher just finished talking about Islam. Anyway, I realized that pretty much everything the news and other sources tell us is a lie, because they don't actually know jackshit about the religion. For example, they don't know the purpose of jihad (lesser jihad is purely defensive in nature, to be ceased immediately upon surrender) and Fox News is literally too stupid to realize that Allah and God are the SAME GOD (Allah is arabic for God, middle-eastern christians call God Allah). But my professor said that the problem is that people either misquote the Qur'an, remove the context of the culture and situation at the time (Mohammed and co being exiled and threatened with death by the Meccans) or quote the hadeeths (Mohammed's words, not God's) to either denounce Islam or justify obvious injustices (ISIS). But my mom is always repeating what she hears on conservative talk shows- Mohammed's a rapist, Mohammed's a murderer, but I know I can't take their biased word for it, and my mom's either for that matter. They only look for what they want to hear, which is murderer, rapist, and heretic. Like I said, when they hear about violence in the Qur'an, its about Mohammed killing people, but not about he and his followers killing people in a self defense of lesser jihad. Happens all the time in the Bible, usually in less justifiable ways.
But if I have one major question, its this: my teacher didn't bring it up, but what about the allegations of Mohammed raping women and even children? Was it a simple matter of cultural values being different at that place and time, where polygamy was common, and he was actually taking wives instead? Not sure if thats acceptable to the religion, though. But I saw something on a site (who's only purpose was to denounce Islam) about him taking a 9 year old girl and having sex with her. I know back then older men tended to take adolescents as wives (Joseph was apparently 40 something while Mother Mary was about 12). Did that actually happen though, and if it did, was it completely removed from context like a lot of other things? I'd prefer for actual Muslims or people who have studied religion from an objective point of view to answer this.
I'm assuming my professor is right, he traveled Eurasia on foot and basically explored every major world religion in-depth looking for truth. I don't think he's a Muslim, I'm guessing a Buddhist actually. But Islam actually sounded like a very beautiful and egalitarian religion the way he taught it. That surprised me, because it made me realize that pretty much every talking head in America has Islam wrong. The way I thought about it is like in the movie Pocahontas where the Native Americans and the English know only stereotypes about the other and hate each other based on those preconceived notions (they both think the others are savages). In contrast, John Smith and Pocahontas get to know each other and see the beauty both sides have to offer.


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Re: Questions about Mohammed - May 4th 2015, 10:15 AM

I just finished talking to a bloke, a personal mentor of mine, about racism and how I was frustrated that the perspective I have on racism is nothing like the perspective that's accepted worldwide, and how my perspective can't be proven by hard evidence, just precedence. He said that whenever I get into an argument with someone, let them know how you feel, and then back off after a while. He said that I will probably never change their mind and that truths are so deeply engrained in people's psychology that other than sharing your own truth, there's not much you can do to convince people.

He told me to focus my attention on the seekers of truth. I just find it crazy that the first post I see after speaking with him, is your one. Regardless, I will help you. Regarding polygamy, the Quran accepts limited polygamy, and it is probably the only text that says "marry only one".

'Marry woman of your choice in twos' threes' or fours' but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly, (with them), then only one' [Al-Qur'an 4:3]'

'It is very difficult to be just and fair between women'. [Al-Qur'an (4:129)]

Can We Consider His Marriage to `A’ishah a Case of Child Molestation?

"To answer your speculation, let’s continue our objective trip into the past. Obviously, when traveling back in time 1400 years to examine a lifestyle we never witnessed, it is unfair to apply our present day standards, so let’s listen to the experts. Authentic historical records prove that the social traditions of the time and place—regardless of religion—considered Arab females as women as soon as their menstrual cycles began. The custom was to give daughters in marriage at that age. This was practiced by all dwellers in Arabia before Islam: pagans, disbelievers, Jews, and others. It’s a fact that female menstruation in hot climates starts much earlier than in cold climates, so females in Arabia matured as early as 8 or 9; they also aged earlier than other women."


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