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Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 16th 2009, 10:36 PM

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 16th 2009, 10:39 PM

Ohhh, I remember him.

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 16th 2009, 10:43 PM

He's a modern day Hitler, in that sense that they both took away the rights of innocent people.

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 16th 2009, 10:47 PM

I feel so bad for his daughter. I don't even want to acknowledge that she is his daughter. This man isn't a father. He... just doesn't deserve that title in my eyes.


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 17th 2009, 03:59 AM

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This is where the death sentence would be most fitting
Isn't that applicable to many criminals?

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 17th 2009, 04:08 AM

I remember this story.It's so sad.The father should get more jail time or something.


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 17th 2009, 04:18 AM

I remember this story.

This is awful. I feel so sorry for his daughter and her children. I can't even begin to imagine. It's like a horror film in real life or something.



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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 17th 2009, 04:29 AM

I remember this story. How sickening.


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 17th 2009, 12:14 PM

I don't really have anything to add, like everyone else has said, this is terribly sad. What a twisted human being. urgh.


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 17th 2009, 12:23 PM

Rape is bad enough, but when you're supposed to love and care for the person unconditionally, its sick. What sort of father would do that?
I'll never understand how people can get kicks from raping their family. It's absurd.


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 17th 2009, 09:26 PM

I cant believe what the poor girl must be going to, i mean, i know how girls who have been raped once often feel really traumatised. I cant imagine how much worse it could be to have it being your own father and to be locked up for so long and raped so many times... to know what was coming and not being able to stop it everyday


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:31 AM

To everyone that has been abused and raped by their own parents/family/peers, that does not give you the reason to pass on that violence to others.

This man has admitted that he was beaten when he was a child and somehow he got the idea in his mind that it was righteous to beat/rape his own offspring. Like I said, if you were beaten/raped in the past, present or in the future, it will not give you the right to do the same to others, as this man has done.

I know of a few people that were abused as a child, and they pass it on to their children, and blame THEIR parents for having abused them. It's not righteous to pass on your pain to others like this sick old man has done.
   
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:07 PM

He reminds of Voldemort, in the sense that he was 'unloved as a child' and was the subject of much torment ...and in later life, he went on to destroy the lives of others in an attempt to gain power. The only difference is Voldemort didnt take one last chance to regret his actions before he died, whereas according to the article on the BBC today (cant access it. read it this morning. Blocked at school for some reason) Fritzl has heard the testimony of his daughter and pleaded guilty to the crimes he committed. In that sense he might not end up as the 'diseased thing, void of any human emotion' that was unable to be helped in the Kings Cross limbo. Instead if he truly has seen the horror of what he's done, he might be able to 'go on' as it were...and if he hasnt, then it's back to being an unloved little diseased thing lol ...Isn't the universe amazing ^_^
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:16 PM

He pleaded guilty to all charges reason Change of heart. Bs!


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:19 PM

It doesnt really matter ... he's still going to rot in jail (or the Psyc unit) for what he's done

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:22 PM

They're saying he may only get fifteen years. Where is the justice in this world?


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:24 PM

This man deserves a fair trial, because a fair trial ends in a very long (hopefully lifelong) prison sentence.


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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:26 PM

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There's barely ever any. The good folk get killed, the bad folk only get 15 years.
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 01:35 PM

hmm. It seems he has now plead guilty on all counts.. "after watching the video evidence he wanted to admit his guilt."

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 11:52 PM

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 18th 2009, 11:58 PM

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I wonder if it was because his daughter may have been there, as cited here.
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 19th 2009, 12:29 AM

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I suspect that it's because he's realised that he can't get a not-guilty verdict, and is hoping to get time off his sentence by pleading guilty.
   
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 19th 2009, 09:19 PM

I wish life in jail MEANT life in jail. It never does though.

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 19th 2009, 09:30 PM

Who are we to decide what sentence he should get? We don't know the facts, only the court and Fritzl know so therefore we should not judge
   
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 19th 2009, 11:15 PM

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Who are we to decide what sentence he should get? We don't know the facts, only the court and Fritzl know so therefore we should not judge
Sure, we don't know all the facts, but we know some. If we were only allowed to make judgements on cases that we know everything about, there's no point even starting the thread! We're entitled to form an opinion on what we think he should be punished with. After all, we're all able to think independently so why shouldn't we use it? It's not like our opinions are actually going to change anything

My dad and sisters were in the living room when we saw this on TV. Dad said that he thinks Friztl should have been burned alive. Normally, I'm not as...lets say aggressive, as my dad, but this time, I think burning him at the stake would be a kind mercy.
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Sure, we don't know all the facts, but we know some. If we were only allowed to make judgements on cases that we know everything about, there's no point even starting the thread! We're entitled to form an opinion on what we think he should be punished with. After all, we're all able to think independently so why shouldn't we use it? It's not like our opinions are actually going to change anything

My dad and sisters were in the living room when we saw this on TV. Dad said that he thinks Friztl should have been burned alive. Normally, I'm not as...lets say aggressive, as my dad, but this time, I think burning him at the stake would be a kind mercy.
Men as sick as that should be made to feel the pain of their victims.
Which is worse than sheer ignorance, we're told what the news wants us to know and hence it has their message across. In this case it's acceptable because he's admitted he is guilty of rape and there really is one message that can be sent out.

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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 19th 2009, 11:33 PM

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Which is worse than sheer ignorance, we're told what the news wants us to know and hence it has their message across. In this case it's acceptable because he's admitted he is guilty of rape and there really is one message that can be sent out.

I don't think he should be burnt at the stake - Austria has EU carbon emission targets to meet
So we shouldn't have an opinion on any news story for fear that we're being fed bullshit by the new agencies? We shouldn't have an opinion on it unless we were there ourselves?

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So we shouldn't have an opinion on any news story for fear that we're being fed bullshit by the new agencies? We shouldn't have an opinion on it unless we were there ourselves?

Lol. It'd be worth it
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 20th 2009, 01:50 AM

Fritzel Gets Life Sentence

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I'm honestly glad to hear it.
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Re: Fritzl admits rape, denies murder - March 20th 2009, 07:28 PM

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He could in theory be released from the facility if he is deemed to be cured of his illness and would serve the remainder of his sentence in a normal prison.

In this case he will be eligible for release after 15 years.
He's already proved he's quite a good actor by being able to hide the truth for 24 years, who's to say he couldn't fake being 'cured', spend 15 years in prison, and then be released?

So much for a life sentence.



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