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Forum: Current Events and Debates May 1st 2010, 10:01 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

But you already said that you didn't think women should have sex at all if they didn't want kids. Doesn't that kinda contradict your original statement?

And once again, I bring up the issue of...
Forum: Current Events and Debates May 1st 2010, 05:44 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

If you've changed the opinion that you've been arguing for the past couple of posts, maybe you'd like to inform people first? And the use of sarcasm is completely unnecessary.



But your...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 30th 2010, 10:34 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

If simply not wanting a baby is not a reason, and we've already established that someone who has consensual sex with contraception doesn't want a baby, how does that relate to your point? I know that...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 30th 2010, 09:42 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Thank you, I'm glad that someone else understands what I'm saying :).



I wouldn't feel sympathy for either of them (assuming they are just two normal women, not children or anything like that)....
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 30th 2010, 07:53 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I still don't see what your point is. If you have sex by choice, even with contraception, why shouldn't you have to deal with the consequences of your actions? Why should women who use contraception...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 29th 2010, 06:44 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

But if you are intelligent enough to use contraception, then you should be intelligent enough to know that no contraception is 100%. And if you know that, then sure, you can minimise your risks, but...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 28th 2010, 06:49 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I don't understand why some people think abortion isn't okay if you have unprotected sex by choice, but it is okay if contraception fails. If you are using contraception then you should know that it...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 24th 2010, 07:49 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I don't understand why you think it is suitable to let a woman get so upset and distressed that she becomes suicidal. It seems to me that you would want to stop depression before it got that bad. In...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 23rd 2010, 11:16 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Obviously I'm not accusing you of lying. I was referring to whether or not it is actually true that it would be more dangerous for her to have an abortion now. I was wondering if you had any medical...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 23rd 2010, 11:31 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

If a girl doesn't understand the possibilities of pregnancy from sex, then yes, she isn't mature enough to be having it. But she wouldn't know that. Why would a girl go and look up sex/pregnancy on...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 22nd 2010, 11:06 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

For a 10 year old girl though, the fetus would be much smaller than normal even at almost 18 weeks (I'm assuming). Wouldn't it be possible that they might be able to use the procedure for those under...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 22nd 2010, 07:50 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Is that actually true though? In a lot of places, I believe it's legal to have an abortion prior to 20/22 weeks, so I would assume that abortion would be reasonably safe up to that point. And it just...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 21st 2010, 11:18 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Fair enough. Though I have trouble with the concept that a 16 year old's body is more capable to carry a baby than a 15 years and 11 month old (age of consent is 16 here). Some places, though, the...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 21st 2010, 10:49 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Then at what age would you consider it no longer medically necessary? The risks associated with pregnancy and birth are much higher for all girls under the age of 20 than those older than that.
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 21st 2010, 06:11 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I'm sorry, what do you mean by 'accepted the sperm'?

This is exactly what I was talking about before. It is just horrible to say that a girl who didn't have any say in having sex has to go through...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 19th 2010, 12:23 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Okay, firstly, I don't need to know you to be able to comment on what you say. And secondly, it actually seems like you are just saying stuff like that to stir people up, so I'm not going to indulge...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 19th 2010, 11:25 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Actually, it's called immaturity and selfishness. Most people grow out of the 'only thinking about themselves' stage. In fact, most people probably wouldn't appreciate their friends not caring about...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 19th 2010, 10:56 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

How do you know that rapists are usually caught? Do you have figures to support that? And I understand that an investigation would be carried out, but a woman could still get around it. She could say...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 19th 2010, 05:57 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

If a woman was desperate though, she would do it. It's entirely possible. I agree that no one should lie about being raped, but I know that it would happen if that was the only way you could get an...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 19th 2010, 05:21 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Forcing a woman to have an abortion is just as bad, if not worse, than not giving her the option of abortion. And as for disappearing and getting on with your own life, there is a little thing called...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 18th 2010, 10:09 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I know that women who are raped require years of psychotherapy etc. My point was that they go through heaps of physical and emotional trauma based on one night. So making them go through an...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 18th 2010, 03:30 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Well, it disgusts me that people think it is okay to force a woman to suffer the emotional and physical distress of pregnancy when she didn't have a choice in the matter. Rape is a horrible crime....
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 13th 2010, 09:45 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

But I don't really agree that it should be. Loki mentioned how much parents who want to adopt have to go through. I have to do a four year university course and then get a permit to even work with...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 13th 2010, 10:39 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

You really think that everybody has the right to raise a child? What about rapists? What about abusive parents (sexually, physically or otherwise)? What about 14 year old girls who can't drive or...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 13th 2010, 08:06 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

May I ask why? There have been plenty of examples in this thread of times when I, personally, would think that it would be completely acceptable to have an abortion. Why is it that you don't think...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 11th 2010, 06:01 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I agree with YNF here. Breathing involves the lungs and thinking involves the brain. So why choose the heart as the key component in determining life?
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 10th 2010, 10:47 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Firstly, acceptable and okay are basically the same thing. And you've said many times that you think abortion is murder, except maybe in the case of health risks. That kinda implied that you disagree...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 10th 2010, 01:05 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

So abortion isn't murder if it's at less than 6 weeks? So basically you're saying that abortion is okay, it's just an issue of timing?

Okay, I've never heard of a fetus being able to be...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 9th 2010, 09:02 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

But as I said before, the majority of teenagers who get pregnant are the ones who don't have a proper knowledge or understanding of sex and contraception. They might not understand how high the risk...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 8th 2010, 10:22 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

But what constitutes a genuine reason? You say that being too young is not an excuse. But what about those girls who have never been taught about sex or contraception? A lot of people believe that...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 8th 2010, 08:09 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

So a woman should be forced to continue her pregnancy if there is a severe health risk for her and it's very possible that she might die? You say that there is no excuse to kill a person, but...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 7th 2010, 10:53 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I'm not attacking you. I'm disagreeing with your point of view, as well as everyone else who thinks like you. That's the point of debating... And I understand that you were sexually abused, but there...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 7th 2010, 02:32 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

So you wouldn't feel guilty about that child having to grow up with the knowledge that their father was a rapist? Because I think that would be an incredibly devastating and traumatising thing to...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 7th 2010, 12:13 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Forcing a woman to carry a baby for 40 weeks when she had no say in its conception (ie. rape) is taking someone's life away. It may not be permanent, but that woman would be forced to give up almost...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 6th 2010, 11:17 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

And if the mother might die or have some other serious health problems? Is it not okay then because the health risks aren't definite?

So basically, you're saying that suicide is okay, but abortion...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 6th 2010, 10:50 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

Of course that's not what I'm saying. And it's hardly a logical conclusion. Having a baby and then killing it because you don't want it anymore is different. In that case, you can give it up for...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 6th 2010, 10:24 PM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

But the child isn't in a position to make that choice. Parents make a lot of choices for their children when they are young. What clothes they wear, if/where they attend school, what toys they have,...
Forum: Current Events and Debates April 6th 2010, 03:45 AM
Replies: 292
Triggering: Abortion???
Views: 9,119
Posted By shimmeringfaerie
Re: Abortion???

I am pro-choice. And not pro-choice in the way that people usually mean it, which is just pro-abortion. Personally, I would never get an abortion. But that's because I'm in a situation where my...
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