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Forum: Current Events and Debates June 27th 2009, 11:36 AM
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Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

No its not, because court marriages (which is what gays are fighting for) have nothing to do with religion.

So, this really isn't a counter point at all.
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 05:38 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Does it say that the men and women have to marry members of the opposite sex? Apparently the document also does not say that homosexuals are to be discriminated against.
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 05:35 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

No. Because everyone (including women, visible minorities, and gays) are allowed to smoke, drink, vote, etc once they reach legal age. This is equality.
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 05:22 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

The reason there were amendments for women and slaves was because these people were not considered persons under the law, but rather property. That is why they had to fight for their rights.

So,...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 05:17 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Well, in that case how about the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? This is valid throughout all of the United Nations.

"Article 1: All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 05:08 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Its an issue of equality. If it were an issue of morals or ethics there would be a lot more room for people to disagree, but as I showed before, law dictates that everyone must be treated equally,...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 04:54 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Khadra was not talking about marriage in the church, but about allowing a couple to be legally married in the courts, thereby giving them the same rights as heterosexual couples who have state...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 04:48 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

So don't allow homosexuals to get married in the church. But not allowing them to get legally married is a breach of their rights.
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 04:43 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Are you capable of participating in a friendly debate without becoming arrogant and offensive? I live in Canada. And just so you know, our laws are just as valid as yours in the States. So tone down...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 04:34 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

No. Denying people the right to these benefits specifically because they are of a certain group is treating a person as a second-class citizen.

Section 15 in the Canadian Charter of Rights and...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 04:09 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

So its okay for gays to be treated as second-class citizens as long as they have some rights?
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 02:06 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

There are lots of religious homosexuals. Just because they are gay doesn't mean their beliefs are thrown out the window. I am sure that they would want their marriage to be sanctified as well. And...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 20th 2009, 01:45 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Marriage is a big deal. It allows a couple exclusive rights which common-law and civil union couples do not have. Also, it is a deeply spiritual and emotionally binding union of two people. Some,...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 19th 2009, 11:43 PM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

The Roman Catholic Church considers a marriage valid when:
http://www.idotaketwo.com/idotaketwo/vow-renewal/vows.jpg It is...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 19th 2009, 11:36 PM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Legitimate Grounds for Divorce:


If a couple chooses to file a fault-based divorce, what “faults” are accepted?

• Physical and mental cruelty
• Adultery
• Desertion
• Prison sentence
•...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 19th 2009, 11:16 PM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Actually, if someone is aware that he or she is impotent going into the marriage, in the Catholic Church that is grounds not to allow them to marry. I think its horrible, and I think it can be...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 19th 2009, 12:24 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Because several people seem so taken aback by the statement that I made a while back that was pretty much summed up in the bolded part of slickguy's post, I feel that I should explain where I was...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 15th 2009, 08:42 PM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Let's say I am Catholic, have been raised in one church community for my whole life, and I believe in the holy sacrament of marriage, however I am also gay. Why should I and my partner have to run...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 15th 2009, 09:49 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

I never said that I didn't think they should have forced him to marry them. I personally think that in a country (or state) where gay marriage is legalized, priests should have to marry them.

I'm...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 15th 2009, 12:56 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Regardless, priests DO get in trouble for refusing to marry a same-sex couple. My uncle (a Roman-Catholic priest) refused to marry a gay couple and he had to attend an inquiry and file reports and...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 14th 2009, 11:31 PM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Actually, they can't. In Canada at least. Because same-sex marriage is legally allowed, and we changed the definition of marriage, it is not considered a valid reason to refuse to allow a couple to...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 10:19 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Perhaps your government simply wants to avoid (or postpone) causing a stir. Especially with his new presidency, Obama wouldn't want to alienate the people who voted him in quite yet. And there are a...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 02:23 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

You're right, but then people who are gay would never ever be able to have physical relationships without it being a sin against God. I think that's a bit unrealistic, don't you?
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 02:09 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

I didn't take what you said personally at all, actually. No worries.:smile I just don't like it when extremists make the rest of us look bad, and unfortunately that happens a lot.

Oh, in case...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 01:57 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Yeah, luckily not all of us Christians are fundamentalist radicals who believe that every single word in the bible is to be taken literally without paying attention to the context and the time and...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 01:33 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Actually, it does... But that was in the old testament. After Jesus died for our sins, I believe this changed.
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 01:15 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

That makes sense, I guess... But considering the fact that this is such a big issue (for both those for and against) I would think that the US government would hold a referendum, take a stand, as...
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 01:08 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

I live in Canada, and I've always wondered why each state has to legalize same sex marriage individually. Why can't the country do it as a whole? That makes more sense to me.
Forum: Current Events and Debates June 6th 2009, 12:35 AM
Replies: 261
Views: 8,354
Posted By PhoenixAlive
Re: what is so wrong about gay marriage???

Absolutely nothing wrong with it, I totally agree with you.

What I do understand is that for some people with conservative or religious views, it is using the specific term marriage that they find...
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