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VERY Triggering, Suicide: The Impact of Helping People. - May 25th 2015, 08:57 AM

This thread has been labeled as triggering, particularly on the subject of suicide, by the original poster or by a Moderator. The contents of this thread therefore might not be suitable for certain sensitive users. Please take this into consideration before continuing to read.

I have been here for a number of years now and while overall I am on track to hit 800 posts, on this account this will be my 200th. I am now a Junior TeenHelper! Anyways, I have been meaning to ask, what impact does helping out around here have on my perception of mental health. I am not talking about a degradation of my own mental health, my mental health is.... well, not fine but my membership here hasn't made it worse.

I am talking about the image I have of mental illness now that I somewhat understand it. In HelpLink a long time ago, I wrote this thread about the concept of suicide pacts and how the law surrounding suicide pacts, the criminalisation of them, makes it sound like there is some degree of malice surrounding them, and that the definition of a suicide pact was kind of funky.

I was reminded that all justices will take into consideration all individual circumstances of any criminal offence, and that the criminalisation of suicide pacts is there to ensure the protection of those involved. However, I kind of scared myself with what I said. Mid-way through the thread, I wrote this:

"The definition of the term is so massively broad. Let's read that again:

''Suicide pact' means a common agreement between 2 or more persons having for its object the death of all of them, whether or not each is to take his or her own life [...].'


I mean what if someone who is clouded by mental illness, in conversation with someone else, again clouded by mental illness, is to, in the conveyance that suicide or death is in some way beautiful, with a desire and perhaps even a romanticism that suicidal people can tend to see, encourages someone else to commit suicide. Is that within the bounds of criminal infringement.

Or, less legal-language-ey, do people who are suicidal not see death as some sort of solution or even paradise? If someone talks to another suicidal person, for example on a site like this, or at school or whatever, they would encourage that death, perhaps as a way of helping the second person? I am not suicidal of course, but regardless, I feel really uncomfortable with the recommendation of suicide to someone, especially from a suicidal person, as a criminal offence worthy of a ten year sentence. That, to me, doesn't sound like a rare occurrence, and now in my experience here, it doesn't sound like a criminal or unnatural one either. The incitement to commit suicide could come from loving grounds, and the deceased agrees. It would be a common case that they are both mentally ill, the law, especially 31C, assumes some sort of malice in it all."


That's the word that still sends a chill through me. I have described suicide as NOT being "unnatural".

I have basically accepted suicide as being something romantic, and I have put an emotional spin on something which, in reality is quiet dark and visceral. I never though three years ago, that I would be talking about and helping people with suicidal tendencies but back then, I didn't have an understanding of it. I wanted to avoid the concept of suicide because it was so PHYSICALLY disturbing. Back then I was thinking of suicide as being a PHYSICAL act, not an EMOTIONAL act but now I have done something different.

I found myself almost endorsing suicide. I can now understand it as being an escape, a paradise of sorts, an end to the pain and suffering. Suicide became a medicine, at least for that moment. Is that something I should be aware of? Is that a bad thing, my interpretation of suicide and the acceptance I have now given it?


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