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So angry that people think like this!! - June 25th 2009, 07:49 PM

So long story short, we were in the churchyard with school (don't worry why) and we were talking about whether murderers could be buried in consecrated ground, and then my teacher said that people who committed suicide couldn't either, but that was good because they were selfish people, who were just self indulgent. I said that no, they were just very very unhappy people, for whatever reason. Then she came right back at me with "Well, to get yourself into that place in your life you have to be pretty selfish and self involved"!!! I know that people have this attitude, but I've never heard anyone say it this obviously before. Plus, she's a teacher. She just SHOULDN'T say that. I shut her up with "Well, I know people who've committed suicide and I wouldn't say they were selfish"....Has anyone else come across this attitude before???
   
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Re: So angry that people think like this!! - June 25th 2009, 07:54 PM

I've been around people like this and it kinda hurt my feelings. I've been suicidal before. When your in that much pain you just don't know what else to do. You don't usually want to hurt people.


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Re: So angry that people think like this!! - June 25th 2009, 08:25 PM

Hi Frankie

Best bet is not to get angry, this teacher is obvioulsy narrow minded & doesnt understand about suicide & how it affects people. It was completetly out of order & you did the right thing, by setting her straight without being rude.

If you ever feel this teacher pick on you because of what has happened, then I would go to another teacher whom is of higher status.

Anyway....teacher wrong....Frankie right.

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Re: So angry that people think like this!! - June 25th 2009, 09:37 PM

I know people like that are frusterating but don't let her narrowed minded views get the best of you! I honestly don't see why people who commited suicide couldn't be buried there, just be it was " consecretd," anyways.

She shouldn't have said esp. being a teacher but I would just drop it. You know it's not selfish, let her think what she wants.

I myself have never ran into this problem with anybody.


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Re: So angry that people think like this!! - July 1st 2009, 10:38 PM

Thanks guys, you're all so sweet!!!
I have let it drop, I like that teacher, and how was she to know that I feel the way I do...It just annoys me, you know. I know that its not true, but I wish I could change people's perceptions of suicide, as it appears (after doing a survey of my friends etc.) that most people actually think this!! Gr it annoys me.
   
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Re: So angry that people think like this!! - July 1st 2009, 11:52 PM

Hi Frankie,
I have known people that think that way before but it's only because they have never had to deal with it before in their lives. Once a person has dealt with something such as suicide they have more knowledge so they realize how serious it is and how it is not really the person's fault. When someone is suicidal they really can't help how they feel and they are not being selfish, they are simply trying to escape from their life.
   
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Re: So angry that people think like this!! - July 2nd 2009, 12:58 AM

Hey Frankie,

I can understand why it frustrates you because it frustrates me too. I think what the others said is right and I also think it has to do with people being afraid of it. I mean people can't really understand how someone could take their own life and it scares them to think that a normal person could get like that; that their child, their family member or even themselves could get that way so they try to rationalize it away. They try to make the people seem like really bad people and stuff so that they can't relate to those people and what not.

In the end, I think it would be nice to change people's view's but I don't think it will ever really happen because they won't ever understand and they will always be kind of afraid of it.


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Re: So angry that people think like this!! - July 2nd 2009, 07:04 AM

Yes, I see that attitude all the time. People who commit suicide are not actually selfish (at least not for committing suicide); they are perceived as such because others regard them as objects and criticize them if they cannot posses them. It is people with attitudes like your teacher's attitude that drive people to suicide. The attitude is "you either do what I want or you might as well die", and it is actually the selfish attitude.



   
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