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July 12th 2022, 12:13 PM
1902 days 
“I am beginning to measure myself in strength, not pounds. Sometimes in smiles.”
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July 12th 2022, 05:54 PM
2100 days. 
(approximately 5.75 years)
PS: It hasn't been easy... especially late 2017 to early 2019, and spring 2020 up until a few months ago.
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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July 14th 2022, 09:58 PM
One month and one week.
Do you ever get a little bit tired of life
Like you're not really happy but you don't wanna die
Like you're hanging by a thread but you gotta survive
'Cause you gotta survive
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July 22nd 2022, 05:17 PM
One month, two weeks, one day.
Do you ever get a little bit tired of life
Like you're not really happy but you don't wanna die
Like you're hanging by a thread but you gotta survive
'Cause you gotta survive
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July 22nd 2022, 07:08 PM
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July 23rd 2022, 09:20 AM
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July 24th 2022, 07:20 PM
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July 26th 2022, 05:06 PM
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July 28th 2022, 05:09 PM
One month and three weeks.
Do you ever get a little bit tired of life
Like you're not really happy but you don't wanna die
Like you're hanging by a thread but you gotta survive
'Cause you gotta survive
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July 28th 2022, 07:22 PM
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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It’s the expression
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 1st 2022, 09:29 AM
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 1st 2022, 09:29 AM
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Great job Sue. You are doing a lovely job.
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It’s the expression
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 2nd 2022, 09:59 AM
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It’s the expression
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in happiness, joy, sadness and envy.
-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 2nd 2022, 05:18 PM
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August 3rd 2022, 02:21 PM
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It’s the expression
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 4th 2022, 09:35 AM
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It’s the expression
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in happiness, joy, sadness and envy.
-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 4th 2022, 05:31 PM
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August 4th 2022, 05:57 PM
Two months.
Do you ever get a little bit tired of life
Like you're not really happy but you don't wanna die
Like you're hanging by a thread but you gotta survive
'Cause you gotta survive
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August 5th 2022, 09:41 AM
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It’s the expression
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 5th 2022, 09:42 AM
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194 days! Great job Sue. You are doing well.
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It’s the expression
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 5th 2022, 09:43 AM
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Two months! Great job Dez, you are doing well.
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August 6th 2022, 09:10 AM
Day 1 again.
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August 7th 2022, 03:37 PM
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It’s the expression
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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August 8th 2022, 03:47 PM
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August 10th 2022, 09:47 AM
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August 11th 2022, 10:15 PM
Two months and one week, ugh though.
Do you ever get a little bit tired of life
Like you're not really happy but you don't wanna die
Like you're hanging by a thread but you gotta survive
'Cause you gotta survive
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August 13th 2022, 09:44 AM
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"Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat,
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It’s the expression
in time and movement,
in happiness, joy, sadness and envy.
-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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Re: Self harm free! -
August 14th 2022, 03:31 AM
I've been self harm free since February 2022.
You are beautiful just the way you are.
Looking like a fallen star.
Don't listen to what people say.
They don't know the real you, anyways.
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Re: Self harm free! -
August 14th 2022, 12:07 PM
Day 1 again.
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"Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat,
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It’s the expression
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-Jacques d’Ambroise''
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