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Intrusive Thoughts? - March 16th 2011, 01:05 AM

A rather light hearted-ish question since I'm in no immediate trouble
So the definition of intrusive thoughts is:
Intrusive thoughts are unwelcome involuntary thoughts, images, or unpleasant ideas that may become obsessions, are upsetting or distressing, and can be difficult to manage or eliminate.Intrusive thoughts, urges, and images are of inappropriate things at inappropriate times, usually falling into three categories: "inappropriate aggressive thoughts, inappropriate sexual thoughts, or blasphemous religious thoughts".
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This is a symptom of OCD, which I don't think I have...
I do have a random thoughts that are unwanted and definitely inappropriate. They don't usually have a recurring theme. Some might be an action thought, sort of like a compulsion. It might be something like in class, "I should shout out "insert something random and inappropriate." or once on a balcony... I should jump and freak people out. And once "How would I hide the body if i just killed that person right now."
I had no intention of doing ANY of these things btw.
So has anyone else every had intrusive thoughts? Do these count as intrusive thoughts?
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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 16th 2011, 02:12 AM

Well, I am not diagnosed with ADHD or OCD, but I was diagnosed with depression. I guess this can sort of fall into intrusive thoughts. At my school, there was this long flight of stairs. That went about four stories down. I always wanted to see if I could jump down those stairs, and see if I could survive. But I would never end up doing it, because I know I would hurt, if not kill myself. So I guess I can sort of relate to what you have. I don't really have inappropriate things that I just want to say at random times, it just I always have this thought of jumping down flights of stairs.


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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 16th 2011, 02:37 AM

Not to be argumentative but at least your thoughts make sense. Sigh. I've had that too though.. my school has stairs where there's a gap in between the flights so you can see all the way down... I've thought of jumping. But not because of anything.
I'm not diagnosed with anything. But sometimes it gets to the point where I'm so distressed and embarrassed by the thought that I can't concentrate.


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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 16th 2011, 02:49 AM

For as long as I can remember I've had intrusive thoughts. I'm diagnosed with bipolar disorder and mine depend on my mood but can be anything from random suicide ideas even when I'm not suicidal or random things I feel I should shout or say, which I sometimes do. Sometimes I also obsess about some of the thoughts in my mind. Its weird, I know.
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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 17th 2011, 02:20 AM

Hey Annabelle!

I have OCD, and so I can really relate to having intrusive thoughts. What you are describing definitely does sound like intrusive thoughts. If you feel like they happen to the point where they're upsetting you or interfering with your life, I'd definitely encourage you to talk to someone about them. Also, feel free to PM me--I went a long time without anyone to talk to, because I thought my intrusive thoughts were my own "weird thing," and I know how much of a difference it can make to "air" the thoughts and talk about them!




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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 17th 2011, 02:37 AM

This could be indicative of future issues, except that you do recognize them as what they are. If they do begin to bother you I would definitely talk to a professional about that (that is the general marker for a disorder, after all: that is is causing a disturbance in your life).

I've had those sorts of thoughts before. I suppose their severity, for me, would depend on the kind of affect attached to them. There's a keen difference between a random thought with no emotional connection and one that has a strong negative one. Having an odd passing thought about something negative without the negativity attached to it is more of an indicator of someone who is cognitively hyper active, versus someone who is obsessive/etc. There's nothing quite wrong with noticing oddities in life, no matter how morbid. It might indicate that you'd be a good creative writer.



   
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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 18th 2011, 01:49 AM

Nice to know I'm not the only one. Thanks everyone! btw Wilson... I love wilson the character. @ Silver Halide thanks, but creative writer no... but the hyper active theory could be it. @ Jen, thanks thanks thanks, but you really don't want to hear mine. Now I feel relatively normal.


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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 18th 2011, 02:01 AM

I haven't been diagnosed with anything. But yes, I have was I would call intrusive thoughts. Morbid stuff about suicide mostly... or death in some manner. My head is a VERY scary place.

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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 18th 2011, 03:46 AM

I experienced a rather violent and debilitating flirt with intrusive thoughts around little over a year ago. It wasn't just an annoyance; most of the damage done was on a spiritual level.

If it is possible, being able to face the 'thoughts' openly can definitely take away a lot of its immediate power. That said, sometimes it is the case that some things do more damage if we try to force it out, versus allowing it to stay in. Every circumstance is different, and I can only speak for myself - that if we know we are unable to open up for the time being, there is no need to pressure ourselves into doing so - perhaps that may change in the future, when the right conditions are present.

There certainly was a time when I was convinced that I'd be 'haunted' forever; or at the very least, the damage resulting from the experience would be permanent. Interestingly enough, moving to a completely new environment was a huge turning point - old routines and interactions abandoned; forces which fed off those environmental triggers weakened. They still creep up occasionally, but are not around to stay anymore. When they do arise, I just recognize its presence, and thank it for helping me learn the lessons that I did, despite the terribly disturbing approach.

I never identified personally with the 'thoughts', which I usually referred to for that reason as the 'voice' - I think this is a very important principle to hold on to. If I had began to believe that those disturbances were my genuine intentions, then the damage would have been permanent without question.

The lack of a reoccurring theme may or may not be a good thing. Perhaps they are just 'random thoughts'; but if they are not, being unable to pinpoint a cause can be extremely frustrating.

As a general life principle: if we are concerned, then we should address that concern. We know only for ourselves, whether or not an experience is problematic and thus warranting of specific attention.

Likewise, I am here if you or anyone else ever want to talk about anything. I know what it is like to be completely alone.


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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 19th 2011, 02:48 AM

@JestingStill Thanks. As long as someone else in the world has this, I feel normal-er.
@ Kaisada (Very pretty name by the way) It's not so much a voice in my head as a thought that's mine, but it's random and embarrassing. I don't have any damage from it so far, I just cringe, wince, and move on. I'm a bit distracted and annoyed but...


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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 19th 2011, 06:04 PM

Just wanted to reassure you that I definitely would like to hear yours--I have so many, of varying intensities and weirdness and scariness and all. So, my guess is that I won't be too surprised. And, I always like hearing other's thoughts--helps me, too!




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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 19th 2011, 07:03 PM

Seriously, thinking about it, I think everybody has intrusive thoughts like that, at least occasionally. I have some of the worst thoughts sometimes, and I hate it. I also have some absolutely insane thoughts, and my boyfriend usually keeps me relatively rational.

You should talk to a counselor about this, because it seems these thoughts may be interfering with your well-being.


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Re: Intrusive Thoughts? - March 20th 2011, 03:02 PM

When I'm in bed I always have images of me creeping downstairs, getting a knife and then creeping up stairs, going into mums room and then stabbing her untill she dies. Then I wash the knife, put it back and set up a break in before I go back to bed. I hate it so much and so hope that I never do it...


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