Wanting to Lose weight

[Arrode93]

So I need some basic tips on how to lose weight, its one thing that I've struggled with for all my life and I don't quite know where to start on trying to handle it.


Any Advice?

[Justin Bieber]

Hey there
I am not sure if the Eating Disorders forum is the right place for this type of question. Eating disorders are not a good way to lose weight. They ruin your body, and mind in different ways. If you are looking to lose weight, eating healthy and exercising five days a week is a good place to start! Stick to fruits and vegetables for snacks instead of the chips, and take the stairs instead of the elevator. Small things can really make a big difference. Also, you can talk to your doctor or a nutritionist for help.
Good luck!
-Amy

[Arrode93]

Lol I didn't see anywhere else that would fit

[Ms. Music]

Hey there,
I agree with Amy, Eating Disorders are NOT the right way to loser weight. I made a recovery from an ED and gained a lot of weight for a number of reasons. I finally lost that weight by doing a number of things. First I ate [Edited]. To make sure of that, I looked up the nutrition information of EVERYTHING that I put into my mouth. I also wrote down everything in a little notebook so that I could be accountable and keep track. I exercised for an elliptical for an hour a day and did weights. It was about an hour and a half in a gym for a day. I lost [Edited] a week for quite a while, which is about the maximum that is healthy for anyone. Eventually it gets easy and you begin to want to live that way. Good luck! If you have any questions don't hesitate to PM me.
Katie

One more thing... I also learned to cook! I love cooking now and preparing healthy meals for the people that I love. Cooking light is a great place to look for recipes. A lot of them are super tasty. Its a great way to lose weight and live healthier, as well as to share your new healthy lifestyle. My dad has lost [Edited] since I started cooking and living healthier.

[Justin Bieber]

Originally Posted by Arrode93

Lol I didn't see anywhere else that would fit

General Health perhaps?

[Pelios]

Diets almost never work and in the long term you end up gaining the weight back. Exercise and activity is always the best method, if its specific areas that are worrying you, you could always lookup exorcises focused at the particular area, and it doesn’t always have to be in a gym you can also go to the park and run or walk, take your dog for a walk, play basketball any sport is good. Of course I’m not saying that you shouldn’t eat healthy but exercise is very important if you want to stay in shape.

[Casey.]

I'm going to move this to general health, as it fits better there.

Anyway, the best way to lose weight is to eat right and exercise, although you should talk to your doctor before starting a new diet plan.

[Thirteen]

The tips given above are great, but another idea to add to it is, try at least one day a week where you don't eat any meat. Not only is it commonly suggested by celebrities and health professionals, but I know from personal experience that when I ate less meat, I lost weight. Just eating less meat (close to NO meat), and walking places instead of driving (like, 10-30 minutes of walking for 3-4 days a week) made a difference. Sure, it wasn't drastic, but it was a healthy way to lose weight.

[Jocelyn.]

I recently talked to my doctor about losing weight. He told me healthy foods and portion control... there is really no way around it. I eat a lot of fruits, veggies, lean meats, substitute white bread with whole grain bread, eat sweet potatoes instead of white potatoes, and I look up a lot of ways to make these things taste good instead of just eating them raw/plain. For me it has to taste good or I won't stick to the diet.

My doctor also told me that yes exercise is important. It helps you keep a healthy in shape body. But in all honesty it doesn't do much for losing weight. Its all about burning more calories than you eat a day. Exercising for an hour a day doesn't exactly burn that many calories. It does do a world of good for your body though! So, don't cut it out completely.

Basically, exercise when you can but don't let it be your main focus for actually losing the weight. Meaning: "I ate something bad today now I need to go work it off!" Doesn't work like that. Eat healthy foods low in calories.

Splurge here and there because for me if I don't give into my cravings sometimes, it builds up and I eat like crap for a week and put all my weight right back on! lol.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

The tips given above are great, but another idea to add to it is, try at least one day a week where you don't eat any meat. Not only is it commonly suggested by celebrities and health professionals, but I know from personal experience that when I ate less meat, I lost weight. Just eating less meat (close to NO meat), and walking places instead of driving (like, 10-30 minutes of walking for 3-4 days a week) made a difference. Sure, it wasn't drastic, but it was a healthy way to lose weight.

Well obviously if you just take something out of your diet and manage to avoid filling it up with something else of the same calories you'll lose weight, but that doesn't mean that trying to cut out meat is the optimum solution for weight loss and health.

Also, celebrities are full of it when it comes to health advice (huurr im on the lemod detox/any other stupid fad diet), and I'd like to see some citation for it being commonly accepted amongst health professionals.

[Thirteen]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Well obviously if you just take something out of your diet and manage to avoid filling it up with something else of the same calories you'll lose weight, but that doesn't mean that trying to cut out meat is the optimum solution for weight loss and health.

Also, celebrities are full of it when it comes to health advice (huurr im on the lemod detox/any other stupid fad diet), and I'd like to see some citation for it being commonly accepted amongst health professionals.

You again, you're just bent on everything being propaganda. I know from personal experience that I can eat and be full without meat (though I don't sit there and count every single calorie), and lose weight. And I never said to completely cut OUT, but cut DOWN.

Oh, and as for health professionals talking about the issues with meat and weight (as well as other problems with meat consumption):
Here, Here, Here, and Here... Just to list a few. AND, none of the webpages are Vegetarian/Vegan based, not "VeggieSociety", or anything like that. Don't be so judgemental.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

You again, you're just bent on everything being propaganda. I know from personal experience that I can eat and be full without meat (though I don't sit there and count every single calorie), and lose weight.

And I didn't deny you could. Hell, someone could eat McDonalds and still lose weight so long as they maintained a calorie deficit. My argument was that there's no reason to cut out meat, and that an ideal diet will involve it.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

And I never said to completely cut OUT, but cut DOWN.

Whatever, doesn't change the message of what I said.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Oh, and as for health professionals talking about the issues with meat and weight (as well as other problems with meat consumption):
Here, Here, Here, and Here... Just to list a few. AND, none of the webpages are Vegetarian/Vegan based, not "VeggieSociety", or anything like that. Don't be so judgemental.

The second is just pulling out a correlation (some high performance athletes eat no meat) and claiming eating vegetarian is the optimum diet. This person obviously hasn't heard about correlation vs. causation. How about we consume a diet of nothing but chicken nuggets seeing as Usain Bolt ate nothing but that the day before he broke the world record?

The second didn't really say anything of substance other than "plant foods can contain good nutrients." Well no shit. No one is claiming they can't, and I'm not here telling OP to eat nothing but steak all day long. It's simply a non sequitur to extrapolate this into "we shouldn't eat meat".

As for the other two, basically any study about vegetarian vs. meat eating needs to be taken with a pinch of salt (ok, maybe a fair bit more than a pinch). Any idiot could run a study showing your average meat eater who just happens to eat meat in the context of the processed crap most people stuff down their throats is less healthy than a vegetarian who avoids such crap, but again it's a non sequitur to take "meat is bad for you" from this.

EDIT: And the evolutionary argument given in the first one is pretty flawed too. I guess they convienently forgot to mention the fact that our closest ancestor, neanderthals, consumed what was basically a purely carnivorous diet? Never mind that, let's instead compare us to the gorilla, to whom we're less related and who has a gigantic gut full of bacteria that digest their vegan diet for them (fun fact: once the bacteria have their way, what eventually gets absorbed by the gorilla is a diet high in fat, with moderate protein and low carbs, hardly the intake of your average vegetarian/vegan).

[Thirteen]

Frosty, I gave the OP a suggestion, that has worked for many others. I know from experience, AND have seen it work for others as well. And with all the stuff pumped into most meats, whether fast-food or not, plus all the fats in animals (keep in mind, people carve/cook away fat in their meat, so you can't deny its presence), cutting down will definitely have health benefits. I never did say it had to be completely eliminated, but smaller portions can even make a difference.

And you know what? Don't shit all over my suggestion, just because you think it's a bunch of cliche propaganda and that Vegetarians/Vegans are trying to force everyone to be like them. Your views are your views, and I'm not going to belittle them because I don't feel the same way. So why should you do such to mine? It's outright ignorant.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Frosty, I gave the OP a suggestion, that has worked for many others. I know from experience, AND have seen it work for others as well.

And people have probably lost weight doing stupid crap like the lemon detox diet (not saying what you're suggesting is on the same level as fad diets btw). I'm here to try and give out what I see as optimal advice, not "what's worked for a few friends."

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

And with all the stuff pumped into most meats, whether fast-food or not

If stuff like that is a concern, then perhaps OP should try to find some meat that isn't subject to that, like grass-fed beef for example.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

plus all the fats in animals

Fat isn't bad for you, nor does fat make you fat.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

And you know what? Don't shit all over my suggestion, just because you think it's a bunch of cliche propaganda and that Vegetarians/Vegans are trying to force everyone to be like them. Your views are your views, and I'm not going to belittle them because I don't feel the same way. So why should you do such to mine? It's outright ignorant.

Personally I'd consider ignorance to be giving out advice and then to get pissed at anyone claiming otherwise, and to refuse to respond to their points other than to attack them for questioning what you've said whilst claiming something as objective as a healthy diet is a case of "your views are your views."

[Ms. Music]

As far as the meat argument goes... I think that meat is an important part of our diet. We need the protein and meat is an easy way to get it. I also think that losing weight and keeping it off is a lifestyle choice. So don't give something up in the hopes of losing weight that you aren't willing to go forever without. And i mean like a huge section of your diet. Cutting back on sweets doesn't count. Like some people give up bread to lose weight, and then once they reach their goal, they eat the bread again and gain it all back. .. Just my 2 sense. I really feel its all in portion control

[Thirteen]

Ms.Music, as I guess you failed to notice as well as Frosty, is that I said CUT DOWN on meat, not ELIMINATE.

Frosty, I've responded to every one of your points thoroughly, I presented links like you wanted, and you complained about the information in the links. Yet, you haven't given proof to your counter-argument about how you NEED meat for protein, when there are other sources.

And when I said "Fat" on meat, think about all the artery-clogging grease the barbecue catches, or the frying pan gets. Think about the "grissle" people trim away when preparing meat. Vegetables and Fruits have none of that. Thus my point.

I know you're being ignorant because in my previous thread where I mentioned that Meat and Dairy both make me sick, you pretty much said I was lying and that the most logical explanations were "Vegan Propaganda". THAT is an ignorant view to have, that because my medical issues don't line up with your views, they're obviously fabricated.

Its funny how for someone who looks for so much proof for other people's points, you present absolutely none of your own. For someone who claims my possible medical problems to be "Vegan Propaganda", you present no suggestions. Just because your views are mainstream, doesn't mean everything else is wrong.

[Broken one]

I've been on the goal to loose weight since christmas and I have lost a fair amount my BMA has gone down by about 5 and I'm looking better.

What I've been doing is not eatting as much as I use to and cooking all my own food so I know what goes in it.
As soon as I start feeling the slightest bit full I stop eatting, even if there's still alot of food left on my plate.
Also if I feel hungry in between meals then I'll have a piece of fruit or a slice if riveta or something like that.

Exercise wise I don't do that much since I have problems with my knees and my back.
However I do, do 30 mins on the WII fit every day and it DOES help, I know alot of people don't like it but I find it invaluable.
I also walk to college instead of catching the bus and go horse riding once a week.

All of this in turn has helped me loose a fair amount of weight.

Also one more thing don't drink many fizzy drinks, try and stick to water/juice/squash and herbal tea mainly. I still have my 2 cups of coffee in the morning and tea in the night but in between all I tend to drink is water and squash with the odd glass of juice.

Hope I've helped a bit.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Frosty, I've responded to every one of your points thoroughly, I presented links like you wanted, and you complained about the information in the links.

And I haven't yet seen any rebuttal to those complaints about the information given.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Yet, you haven't given proof to your counter-argument about how you NEED meat for protein, when there are other sources.

I don't ever recall making the assertion other sources can't offer protein, but having said that, meat, along with other animal foods (i.e. eggs and dairy) offer a complete range of all the amino acids the body needs, and are typically much more readily used by the body, not to mention more dense in protein than most non-animal foods.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

And when I said "Fat" on meat, think about all the artery-clogging grease the barbecue catches, or the frying pan gets. Think about the "grissle" people trim away when preparing meat. Vegetables and Fruits have none of that. Thus my point.

What point? Fat isn't bad for you, nor does it make you fat.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

I know you're being ignorant because in my previous thread where I mentioned that Meat and Dairy both make me sick, you pretty much said I was lying and that the most logical explanations were "Vegan Propaganda". THAT is an ignorant view to have, that because my medical issues don't line up with your views, they're obviously fabricated.

I never claimed that your problems were fabricated, merely that the explanations you had been given about meat being undigestible by the human body or whatever they said being generally false.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Its funny how for someone who looks for so much proof for other people's points, you present absolutely none of your own. For someone who claims my possible medical problems to be "Vegan Propaganda", you present no suggestions. Just because your views are mainstream, doesn't mean everything else is wrong.

I'm not sure how you throw me in the mainstream, seeing the mainstream is essentially "huurr eat little meat and shove craploads of grains down your throat".

[Thirteen]

Really Frosty? Because you know, its somewhere between 65-70% of people who eat their pizza with meat, the remaining percent buys vegetarian. So thus, meat eating is the more mainstream view in that sense. And the small percentage of vegetarians I've ever run into personally, that helps back up the fact that Omnivore diets are still the mainstream diets.

And I did reply to you, I've replied the best I can. I'm not a scientist. But, you didn't answer why I should have to provide evidence, yet you shouldn't.

Face it, you're harassing me because you don't agree with my ways. If I wanted to further prove my point, I could point out that a big part of PETA's campaign says how on average, vegetarians weigh less than omnivores. I can't post weight numbers here, but it's not some sickly amount either. It's not an amount to equal to starvation. However, if I link anything from PETA, you'll automatically assume it's biased.

I know your type, willing to manipulate everything to try and prove a point because you hate your views being challenged. So you know what? Just stop messaging towards me. You're harassing me, you're completely hypocritical, and you're just outright wrong. Its wrong of you to say I need to present evidence, and yet you don't. It's wrong of you to assume that I'm trying to force someone to STOP eating meat, when I made a suggestion to LOWER their meat consumption.

You're just an extremely stuck-up person, and it makes me sick how ignorant and pig-headed you are about anything that isn't YOUR views, YOUR ideals.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Really Frosty? Because you know, its somewhere between 65-70% of people who eat their pizza with meat, the remaining percent buys vegetarian. So thus, meat eating is the more mainstream view in that sense. And the small percentage of vegetarians I've ever run into personally, that helps back up the fact that Omnivore diets are still the mainstream diets.

I thought you were referring to my views in a more specific way that just "omnivore".

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

And I did reply to you, I've replied the best I can. I'm not a scientist. But, you didn't answer why I should have to provide evidence, yet you shouldn't.

Your "reply" involved saying that a few of your mates have tried eating according to what you've said, and then crying about how I'm belittleing your views. Bravo. And what evidence do you want? Evidence for the fact basic experimental conditions for those studies weren't followed (i.e. correlation vs. causation, not controlling other variables etc.)?

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Face it, you're harassing me because you don't agree with my ways. If I wanted to further prove my point, I could point out that a big part of PETA's campaign says how on average, vegetarians weigh less than omnivores. I can't post weight numbers here, but it's not some sickly amount either. It's not an amount to equal to starvation. However, if I link anything from PETA, you'll automatically assume it's biased.

Please do so. I'm just sitting here waiting for you to post more studies making claims based on poorly controlled samples. Do you really think comparing vegetarians, who presumably watch their diet enough to eliminate entire food groups, with people who eat generic processed crap that happens to contain meat and animal products makes a credible attack on an omniviourous diet?

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

I know your type, willing to manipulate everything to try and prove a point because you hate your views being challenged. So you know what? Just stop messaging towards me. You're harassing me, you're completely hypocritical, and you're just outright wrong.

Right. Says the girl who responds to any criticism with (if I'm lucky) a few poorly thought out studies and a whole lot of crying about how I should respect your views.

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Really Frosty? Because you know, its somewhere between 65-70% of people who eat their pizza with meat, the remaining percent buys vegetarian. So thus, meat eating is the more mainstream view in that sense. And the small percentage of vegetarians I've ever run into personally, that helps back up the fact that Omnivore diets are still the mainstream diets.

I thought you were referring to my views in a more specific way that just "omnivore".

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

And I did reply to you, I've replied the best I can. I'm not a scientist. But, you didn't answer why I should have to provide evidence, yet you shouldn't.

Your "reply" involved saying that a few of your mates have tried eating according to what you've said, and then crying about how I'm belittleing your views. Bravo. And what evidence do you want? Evidence for the fact basic experimental conditions for those studies weren't followed (i.e. correlation vs. causation, not controlling other variables etc.)?

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

Face it, you're harassing me because you don't agree with my ways. If I wanted to further prove my point, I could point out that a big part of PETA's campaign says how on average, vegetarians weigh less than omnivores. I can't post weight numbers here, but it's not some sickly amount either. It's not an amount to equal to starvation. However, if I link anything from PETA, you'll automatically assume it's biased.

Please do so. I'm just sitting here waiting for you to post more studies making claims based on poorly controlled samples. Do you really think comparing vegetarians, who presumably watch their diet enough to eliminate entire food groups, with people who eat generic processed crap that happens to contain meat and animal products makes a credible attack on an omniviourous diet?

Originally Posted by ☣ ArcAngel ☣

It's wrong of you to assume that I'm trying to force someone to STOP eating meat, when I made a suggestion to LOWER their meat consumption.

I already asked where I made that assumption in the last post.

[~CourageousSurvivor~]

You guys this isn't a debate. The OP was asking for advice not an 'argument.'

The best advice I can give is to eat to your hunger and fullness level. Incorporate more Veggies and fruits. And eat things that you like. All food fit into your diet you just have to use moderation. I could give you some recipes if you want. They helped me out. Good food. Healthy etc. But nothing was non fat or anything it was normal good food that I had in moderation.

Moderation is key.

Also don't not go for your cravings. If you are craving something allow yourself to have it because if you don't then when you do cave in and have it you are more likely to gorge. Say you want a candy bar, incorporate it into your meal. Have it after dinner or something. If you do that you might be less likely to eat the whole thing. You will have half of the snickers or whatever and think 'Okay, I am done now.' And save the rest for later or give it to a family member. If you don't eat it when you are craving it when you do get it you are more likely to eat the whole bar or two.

http://www.amazon.com/Intuitive-Eati...5203900&sr=8-1

That book is all about intuitive eating. Listen to your body. Give it what it wants etc. It is supposed to be a really good book. Give it a try if you want.

Dieting doesn't work though because of all the restrictions but listening to your bodies wants and needs does. It really does. I can vouch for that.

Hope this made sense (I am a bit tired ) and if you ever want to chat or need anything feel free to pm me.

Jenna