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Am I in the right? - March 31st 2011, 03:31 PM

My dad's laptop isn't working, again. My aunt is trying to fix it. The reason it keeps messing up is because he's too cheap to buy a new laptop and just keeps having old ones of friends. And because he's a moron and somehow gives it a virus, work, trojan every month.

He keeps asking me if he can use mine. Honestly, I don't want him to touch my laptop. I don't want anyone in this house to touch this laptop. They're all useless with computers and will somehow get it infected within a few days. Even with my Avast! turned on he would probably still get a virus somehow. It would be safer for me to throw it out the window.

This laptop is the only thing in my house that keeps me sane :/

Everyone's calling me selfish now for not letting him use it. I just don't want to spend days trying to get rid of a virus. It's not like I could send it back to the shop either as my guarantee ran out last month.

Before anyone says anything about me teaching him about online safety I bought him a damn book all about viruses, trojans, worms etc. a few months ago. He can't be bothered to read it. Plus, I would prefer to teach my cat how to use a computer it would be easier.


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Re: Am I in the right? - March 31st 2011, 04:46 PM

I honestly think you did the right thing and told him no to using your laptop and that he should buy a new laptop. I think you should tell him what if the tables were turned how would you feel if I borrowed your laptop and I put a virus on your laptop? Hell get the idea after. And remind him I bought you a book on viruses and etc and I havent seen you read it and think you should. Let me know how it goes.


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Re: Am I in the right? - March 31st 2011, 04:58 PM

Then say something like, "I'll let you use my laptop, under the condition that you learn about viruses and general online safety." You wouldn't let someone use dangerous machinery before they've read the instruction manual, so explain that to your uncle as well. A computer can do a great deal of harm to a person - for example, if you enter your credit card number on the wrong kind of website, your identity could be stolen. Explain to your uncle that a computer IS dangerous machinery. As such, he needs to learn how to use it properly. Until he can answer all your questions about viruses and online safety to a satisfactory degree, he is not prepared to use a computer, and therefore, cannot use your laptop.






   
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Re: Am I in the right? - March 31st 2011, 05:10 PM

That is another thing I'm worried about. I have my debit card details on here :| well, on my paypal account.

I probably will say that to him. Thanks


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Re: Am I in the right? - April 1st 2011, 05:33 PM

I think that Robin is absolutely right one this one.
Explain to him why you don't want to let him use it,
and then compromise. I think that because it is your lap top- you have the ultimate say
in who uses it. Sure, they might not like your decision, but it's YOUR lappy, and they haven't really proven they can use it without breaking it.


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Re: Am I in the right? - April 1st 2011, 06:14 PM

Why not just install better anti-virus and Internet security on his laptop? I have one main anti-virus and internet security program along with 3 free downloadable ones that I pop in whenever a virus hits as viruses may go for the anti-virus program, not for the other 3 as they're not "anti-virus programs". In addition, I have a firewall at the router and a firewall on my own laptop.

It seems like he may just be relatively clueless so throwing a book at him probably doesn't do any good as he may have no understanding of it and so no motivation to read it.

I'd tell him that he can use it under several conditions. First, he learns about basic online safety. Second, he doesn't download any programs without my say-so. Third, he doesn't give me a virus, trojan, bug, etc... . Fourth, no physical damage is done to the laptop. If he breaks any of those, I take it back, clean up whatever he did and change my log-in password. I don't see any need for him to read a book on viruses and such. If there's any physical damage or he did something beyond my skills to repair it, he pays for the costs to repair it. Should he refuse to pay, I've never had someone skip out who owes me money, other than moving to another country but even then, I've still managed to contact them.

I'd create a profile for him where he's not the administrator and does have restricted access to certain areas on the computer along with encrypting certain files. I'd do this mainly because I'd know he has a nice history of doing silly stuff to screw up the laptop.

I find those things reasonable because it allows him usage of the laptop with consequences should he screw things up on it. That to me is fair as he has a chance to use the laptop under certain conditions that all need to be met.


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Re: Am I in the right? - April 1st 2011, 07:00 PM

I suppose I could download a virtual machine and let him use that :/ no viruses could go from that on to my actual computer.


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