Twilight

[whitestringbracelet]

Obviously, the Twilight craze has been sweeping the nation (if not the WORLD). All "OhmigodEdwardCullen!!!" comments aside, what did you guys think of the ACTUAL BOOKS? Like Stephanie Mayer's writing?? Mm... personally, I don't think her writing is that top-notch. As much as being swept up in the passion that comes along with the series is, and as much as I enjoyed reading the books, I didn't think they were all that great. I think Stephanie's style is a little bit boring, and she doesn't use enough descriptive clauses/phrases, except when describing Edward's beauty. I think they're written mediocre-ly, and Steph got lucky when they started to best-sell.

Some compare the Twilight series to Harry Potter, which frankly pisses me off. They are nowhere near as well written as HP. Agree? Disagree?? This should be fun...

Please please try to keep Edward's amazingness/hotness out of this thread. Someone else can start an Edward Cullen Appreciation thread elsewhere. I'm too afraid of what the Twilight haters out there would do if I started one...

[FastForward2012]

I think her writing was good. It was pretty descriptive because I always found myself picturing everything in my head.

I wouldn't compare Twilight to HP. at all. They're two different kinds of books. So,disagree because twilight is more a romance, and HP is like...wizards and school-stuff.

I used to be a big Twilight fan when the first book came out,but now I think its became a bit overrated. I haven't seen the movie. I wanted too, but because like whole world likes it now, I'm just kina like....*backs away*...haha. I'm deffinitely not a fangirl.

[MadPoet]

My interest in Twilight isn't as high anymore.
Sure I have an Edward shirt..and a Twilight bracelet...and a keychain..And okay I really love Twilight a lot. But what I honestly think is stupid is websites like.. 'TwilightSucks.com' and all kinds of Twilight haters insulting the book and Stephenie Meyer, and annoying screaming fan girls attacking people who hate Twilight. It's just like...wow. Okay, be obsessed with Twilight, I know I have been, but what it all comes down to is that it's just a book. The characters might seem real, and they're pretty darn sweet, but it's just like any book - you like it, or you dont like it. End of story. Drop it. There was never this much ruckus with the Harry Potter series, and I wish there wasn't with Twilight either.

I think Stephenie's writing is perfectly fine, though. She did a great job writing the books, in my opinion.

[Toast]

Um, Twilight was okay, but nothing special. There are lots of better books out there, but at the same time, it wasn't absolutely terrible.

[Pandaloo]

I think its a great book, yeah, you might say i'm "obsessed" with it. But it's a shame i accidently stepped into a world which was going to be savaged by fangirls. Sure i don't like the overreaction, but i still love the book.

When it comes to books, i just look for something that will keep me hooked and wanting to know whats next. Screw the "good" writing, i can picture it clearly in my head and can't put the book down. Thats all i need for a good book.

[blacksnow]

In one way I don't think she is a great writer. The language is very basic with basic descriptions. It reads very much like a journal with the writing skill of a 17 year old, which is what it is. So in that respect, it's very well written. The language suits what it's supposed too. The only reason I think the book is of any interest is because of the brilliant story line. I know all good books have to have a great story line but in this case, it really carries the book.

[whitestringbracelet]

Blacksnow, I think you stated what I was trying to say a lot more eloquently
The whole Twilight Haters community is really interesting to me. I wonder honestly if some guys claim to hate Twilight because they feel threatened by Edward! I know this sounds sort of ridiculous, but I'm dead serious. Stephanie's created this amazing, beautiful, perfect guy who loves Bella just as much as she loves him... and that's what every [straight] girl wants, right?? I think girls (or at least some Twilight girls) have started setting their standards super high because of Edward Cullen. I don't know. Just a thought.

[KnightSniper]

Originally Posted by whitestringbracelet

Blacksnow, I think you stated what I was trying to say a lot more eloquently
The whole Twilight Haters community is really interesting to me. I wonder honestly if some guys claim to hate Twilight because they feel threatened by Edward! I know this sounds sort of ridiculous, but I'm dead serious. Stephanie's created this amazing, beautiful, perfect guy who loves Bella just as much as she loves him... and that's what every [straight] girl wants, right?? I think girls (or at least some Twilight girls) have started setting their standards super high because of Edward Cullen. I don't know. Just a thought.

Okay, I'm sorry but I find this idea to be rather ridiculous and just plain crazy. I don't dislike Twilight out of some irrational feeling of being "threatened" by Edward. I dislike the book because, as I stated in the other thread, Edward is a boring, inept character who speaks dialogue that comes out in a way that makes it feel like he could be portrayed by a cardboard cutout.

So, could you describe for me just what makes him "beautiful" and "perfect"? Though I think it's amusing that you brought this into the discussion when you yourself said:

Please please try to keep Edward's amazingness/hotness out of this thread.

[Anonymous.]

I think Stephenie Meyer did a great job on the books.

[Tegan]

**contains spoilers**

I think they're alright written, they're not like the most amazing literary works of the century, but they were written for teenage girls and lets face it, pretty much every teenage girl in the western world has heard of Edward Cullen.

I'm now going to go slightly off the point and invite people to disagree with me...
Although I could never have seen Bella with anyone other than Edward, at heart I've always been a Team Jacob kinda girl. I think Jacob sort of got delt the short end of the stick.
The fourth book is so controversial, I know someone will disagree with me on this. Although I thought that the story line was actually quite good, I think that it didn't have the same awesome-ness as the other books as Stephenie Meyer was under more pressure to wrap everything up and get it right and please everyone, which obviously she couldn't do. However I'm a sucker for happy endings and I was happy that Jacob could finally drop the "oh, i can't have bella, so i'm gonna fall into the stereotypical angsty bad boy role and forcibly seduce her" role that had been annoying the bejeebers out of me for the past two books.
One more thing, Sam and Emily's relationship is one of my favourite things about the books, but I don't know how they're going to portray that in a movie without making Sam seem like a total Jerk about the whole Leah thing, the imprinting is described quite well in the book, so people know that Sam didn't have much of a choice. But I'm just worried that in the movie people will think he's a bit of a player, which would upset me because I really like Sams kind of big brother/mature yet playful kind of character.

Okay I now realise how weird and twilight-obsessed I sound.
Sadly I'm really not that obsessed, I just have a lot of opinons on most books, twilight included.
I had more to say but I'm not gonna keep digging, lol.
x

[cchheellsseeaa]

i love twilight but it pisses me off that people dont read the books or just read the first one or just the movie and are like OMGZEDWARDISMYSOULMATELIKEOMGZ like seriously is taht all you got out of the book?

pisess me off....

[Elizabeth]

I think that while the writing isn't all that good, it draws in teenagers because of the story line. It gets so many people that normally don't which is one of the reasons I think it is a good book.
I think that the fourth book felt rushed too, and I wish it could just keep going forever(they never die right?).
I was disappointed with the movie, but movies are almost never better than books.

[innocentlyangelic]

I think the writing is OK. Its good in the first book, but seems to get steadily worse. By Breaking dawn i think its like...not great.
Still really like it though!

[Jamie]

A couple of day ago I did pick up the first book and gave it a read for a bit and it really wasn't my cup of tea. Personally I thought it was a bit to formulaic for my tastes but in the end, I can see why it's a hit- and I'm glad it is. Any book that becomes popular and inspires people to read more and to write more is fine by me. However, as the OP has said, the more popular it gets, the more people will hate it without even reading it in the vain attempt to appear "non-conformist."

[whitestringbracelet]

Originally Posted by KnightSniper

Okay, I'm sorry but I find this idea to be rather ridiculous and just plain crazy. I don't dislike Twilight out of some irrational feeling of being "threatened" by Edward. I dislike the book because, as I stated in the other thread, Edward is a boring, inept character who speaks dialogue that comes out in a way that makes it feel like he could be portrayed by a cardboard cutout.

So, could you describe for me just what makes him "beautiful" and "perfect"? Though I think it's amusing that you brought this into the discussion when you yourself said:

It's fine if you think it's crazy; it's just my opinion, a vaguely-educated guess. I'm not trying to say that all boys are intimidated by Edward Cullen. It just seems like an explanation for previous un-explained hatred towards Edward.

And, for the record, I was talking about Edward's (attempted) perfection just to prove my point. I wasn't bringing into the thread exactly what I've asked people not to. And, if you've read the books, which your post makes it seem like you have, you would know what makes him "beautiful" and "perfect."

[KnightSniper]

Originally Posted by whitestringbracelet

It's fine if you think it's crazy; it's just my opinion, a vaguely-educated guess. I'm not trying to say that all boys are intimidated by Edward Cullen. It just seems like an explanation for previous un-explained hatred towards Edward.

And, for the record, I was talking about Edward's (attempted) perfection just to prove my point. I wasn't bringing into the thread exactly what I've asked people not to. And, if you've read the books, which your post makes it seem like you have, you would know what makes him "beautiful" and "perfect."

I've tried to read the book, but can't seem to push myself any further than about half way.

"Beauty" and "perfection" are highly subjective descriptions that can vary from person to person. Description can only do so much before your mind takes over and fills in details, so characters in books and stories are even harder to say are "beautiful", though Meyer seems to love using that word often. I could tell you details about me, but without seeing a picture of me, you and anyone else reading said details about me under the same circumstances are going to draw different mental pictures. If you want to invoke the actor behind the movie's Edward, Robert Pattinson, as your concept of Edward as the "beautiful" man, but you're really saying that Pattinson is "beautiful".

"Perfection" is even more fun to divide, especially considering you seem to be ducking my question about what you think makes Edward perfect. If we're talking about him as a "perfect person" overall, then he just falls into the category of the fantasy indulgence, because as reality teaches us, no one is perfect and everyone has flaws. Out of everything I've read, the only flaws that Meyer seems to intentionally give Edward is his "crooked smile", though his dated and boring dialogue and his clear ineptitude with the opposite sex are, I guess, unintentional flaws. However, if we're talking about him as the "perfect boyfriend", well then, of course he's going to seem like the perfect boyfriend for Bella because Meyer threw so much effort into cramming their romance into the story that it would be wasted effort if they didn't end up together and stay together. However, his status as "perfect boyfriend" for anyone else is going to end up dependent on the individual's point of view. You may think he's "perfect", but that's from your individual perception of Edward as a character.

So no, I don't know what makes Edward "beautiful" or "perfect".

And by the way, it is entirely possible that more guys than just me dislike Edward and the Twilight series as a whole for more than just the shallow idea that we feel "threatened". It seems a whole lot more likely and logical to me that many of us who dislike the book after reading it see Edward as being a shallow, poorly crafted character who is yet another attempt at fantasy indulgence, just like how Meyer has so many boys falling all over Bella at the mere sight of her.

[IMissPadfoot]

Lol don't get me started!

All I will say is that I very much enjoyed Twilight, but as the books continued they got worse and worse and the last book was, IMO, a waste of paper.

Bella is the kind of dull character that would never attract someone as "special" as Edward, and as much as I loved the character of Edward I felt the only character who was real was Jacob.

I could rant endlessly about the last book - name of which has escaped me - but I will leave it there

[FastForward2012]

Originally Posted by IMissPadfoot

I could rant endlessly about the last book - name of which has escaped me - but I will leave it there

Breaking Dawn.

[Forgotten--Simplicity]

I liked the Twilight series - however I feel that it is undeserving of the amount of attention and praise it recieves. To me it is no longer about the uniqueness of the plot, or the skill of the writing, it is all about Edward, and how everyone wishes they were Bella.

In the famous words of my roommate - every teen girl, her mother, her grandmother, her best friend and her dog have written a vampire romance novel. Sure, they weren't your 'typical' vampires (can I even say that? Except for the 'glowing in the sun' bullcrap they were your typical vampires), but, come on!

I agree with IMissPadfoot, Jacob was the only 'real' character. He had layers, feelings and got punished for his mistakes. He grew and changed, name another character that grew and changed through out that series.

And don't even get me started on Bella. The best way I've heard Bella described was that she was a Mary-Sue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue). The fact that Bella's every wish and hope comes true slays me. I'm stopping here or I might go on a full fledged rant.

Goregous, amazing Edward. Am I the only one who was turned off by how he was so 'obsessed' with protecting Bella? He dictated everything... and I hate to be treated like I'm genuinely helpless, maybe that's why I was so frustrated with Bella and Edward. Gr, gr, grrr!

Anyways... I did like the books, I just have had my frustrations heightened by the sheer volume of stupid that seems to follow the Twilight propaganda. They might as well change the name from 'Twilight' to 'Edward Cullen'.

You fangirls can keep your Edward.
I'd take my imperfect, hot-headed, sarcastic, funny Jacob any day of the week, thank you very much. =)

[Jaymz404]

I'm glad Twilight came in, now all the girls can be obsessed with that instead of Nightmare Before Christmas.

It's one of my favourite films of all time and I got called scene and emo for liking that film so much, but now the scene girl have moved to Twilight.

As for the books, pure terrible. Completly slated vampires.

Vampires die in sunlight. It is one of there key key key features. That is why they have super human strength because the darkness gives them power. Why kill a key vampire concept. Why?

[WhySoSerious?]

Uh, Twilight was alright. But to be completely honest, I wouldn't have read it if I hadn't been trapped in a foreign country with nothing to do at the time. Wayyyy too overrated, sure, they are decent and there's a couple characters I like (Bella and Edward aren't even on that list however) but it's not nearly as well written as Harry Potter was. I would agree that Stephenie Meyer's writing style is pretty mediocre. It doesn't have the sparkle in it that most bestsellers do.

Mostly, I think it became a bestseller because of the large amount of vampire and romance fans out there. It's hard to find a half-decent vampire book, so the lack of sparkle in Meyer's writing can easily be overlooked by readers. And add that to the amount of people out there who just swoon over a hot ultra-strong Mr. Perfect who falls in love with the damsel in distress, then you have everything you need to hit the bestsellers list.

However I'm not saying there weren't some good points, there was a touch of humour in some places... and I adore the character Alice, she made the books worthwhile for me. And the whole idea that it takes place in the middle of nowhere also comes across nicely. But still, it's not the best book oh-my-god ever.

And with the squealing wannabe-vampire fangirls... it makes me ashamed to tell anyone that I've read the books, it's like a dirty little secret. (Personally, I can't help but compare Edward to the dreaded "Mary-sue" of the fanfiction-fandom.... and Bella to the OC girl you see in so many fanfics...)

Oh, and as an afterthought, I agree with forgotten simplicity (having just now scrolled up and read what she said) Jacob really is the only REAL character, with layers and who grows and such.

[alixthetree]

i personally love twilight...but i think that some people can get way to obsessed with it...and the movie wasn't that great

[Tegan]

Team Jacob. Ftw.
Edward and Bella can have each other (Y)

[xoJust_Juliaxo]

Ok i am going to say this in advance on so everyone does not hate me, but i might get a little over protective so don't hate. First of all their are so many different types of vampires now that the true vampire form mat is totally out the window. So just deal with the fact that someone came up with one that is actually pretty new an interesting. Second twilight is so much better than harry potter , for many reasons an not because of the characters i am talking along the lines of plot an other stuff like that. Plus harry potter is like every other teen magic book you read , so yeah. Third i like the first , second, an third book the fourth can burn in book hell , personally out of every book i have ever read in my life that book sucked the most. I mean seriously not only are the powers stupid but the ending was so stupid i was like this must be a joke. Final thing , the movie is good but not totally high in my standards not only did they totally cut Emmett , out of the movie but they add that stupid dinner scene. I mean seriously ugh how stupid can you get.... So yeah thats the end of my rant i guess.

[Jaymz404]

Destroying a vampires key weakness is not fresh new and exciting, its killing the main thing that drives vampires.

The point is when they trade off to become a vampire they lose something, they lose the day. But they become a hunter of the night, that is what vampires were.

Nothing new and fresh about daywalkers (blade) but Blade actually had some respect about it and said he was special one of a kind, not that light burning them was a myth. When I read that in the book I closed the book and put it in the bin.

Trashy teen vampire rommance =/

[Em[ily]]

I just absolutly adore the Twilight series! It is the most amazing series of all time in my opinion! I love the writing and the passion between Bella and Edward! I just find that the books are greatly written and I wish Stephanie was publiching Midnight Sun (fifth book in the Twilight series that she isn't publishing now)
The books made me laugh, they made me cry, and they made me say "awwww" and I just fell in love with the books!

[Bibliophile]

I prefer the books to the film.The books show everything differently and let you imagine it.
Harry Potter...Well,i've never actually read all the books,its only compared because of Robert Pattison being in both.I think

[BECCALICIOUS!]

I read Twilight, and saw the movie... they were good, I liked both of them, but they weren't THAT great.

In my opinion, Harry Potter is way better than Twilight in many different aspects. First of all, Harry Potter seems to appeal to a much broader spectrum of people than Twilight does. The main hype from Twilight seems to be coming from annoying little fan-girls, and I've seen more than one person who's ashamed to have liked the books because of that. Harry Potter wasn't written with any particular audience in mind - it appeals to people from every gender and age group.

Second of all, the plot line of both books. I think that Twilight was completely cliched and predictable, without any unexpected twists or real depth. Harry Potter, on the other hand, was clearly written with a plan in mind, and I found myself on the edge of my seat with every character death and plot twist that I read. I could tell you what happens in the second - fourth books of the Twilight saga, and I haven't even read them. Harry Potter, on the other hand, seems much less predictable.

I also found that Meyer's characters were very much underdeveloped. Yes, they portrayed human emotion and such, but I couldn't give them individual personalities based on their likes, experiences, and whatnot. In Harry Potter, everyone has a distinct personality based on what they have gone through and who they are on a social status, as well as what they like and dislike.

I also think that I should mention the fact that Rowling created an entire separate world for Harry Potter and the wizarding population, which makes her books so much more, well, magical, for lack of a better term. You can lose yourself in the books because you are entering a totally separate world filled with Quidditch and Bertie Bott's Every Flavour Beans and Transfiguration classes and Howlers. Meyer's books don't have that same appeal. Yes, admittedly the vampires are cause for intrigue, but in my opinion you can't lose yourself in their lives like you could in the magical world that Rowling created.

There is also a lack of descriptive detail in Twilight beyond Edward's appearance, I have noticed. I mean, I love a hot guy as much as every straight girl or gay guy does, but honestly, I get sick of hearing it after a while. In Harry Potter, Rowling paid attention to every little detail - she even developed three other books based on the beasts she created, the game of Quidditch, and wizarding childrens' stories! Every character is described with enough detail so you don't only focus on the attractiveness of one particular person.

Lastly, I think that Edward is the most unrealistic character I have ever encountered in a book. Meyer has created what is basically "the perfect man." I honestly worry about the Twilight hype because I'm concerned that too many girls will start looking for a man just like Edward Cullen to realize that there is not a single person who exists like him. I know some of us are mature enough to realize this, but I know eight-year-olds who are obsessed with Twilight - you can't say the same for them. Admittedly, there are characters in HP that are considered "attractive", like Cedric Diggory and Professor Lockhart, but you also come to realize that they have faults and that they make mistakes, just like any other human being.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a girl. I enjoy a romantic story as much as any other teenage girl out there. But I think many of us intellectuals would prefer a well-written, developed saga to a book that gives us unrealistic expectations of men as well as being underdeveloped ANY day.

I don't have any problem with those who actually enjoy Twilight... unless you're a teenage fangirl that's overly obsessed with the book and will completely b!tch me out for writing this. THEN, we might have a problem.

So ends my rant/analysis!

[Strider]

I got the books for Christmas and my birthday, but I've only read the first one. I like the story, but the writing, in my opinion, is very mediocre. I didn't really like the movie either (mostly for acting reasons).
What I find hilarious, though, is that my dad has started reading Twilight in french. He likes reading french books (he's read the Uglies series in french) and teen books are about his french level. The title for Twilight in french is 'Fascination'. I thought that was pretty neat.
I hope New Moon is good, but I've heard a lot of people say they didn't like it.

[Oiseau the Little Bird!]

Well, honestly, I really liked the books. I read them only after the movie came out, because I know eventually I'm going to go see it (omgcedricdiggory), and now I'm convinced that I can't ever write my vampire mystery novel because everyone is coming out with vampire stories. :[ Damn.

But anyway, I'm not mad-crazy-obsessed, but I really do like the books -- every time I started one, I could not put it down. I think that Stephenie Meyer did an excellent job with writing the story. I'm very excited for Midnight Sun.

My only issue with the books is that I can NOT stand how "BAW EVERYTHING IS MY FAULT OBVIOUSLY, I'M SO SELFISH" Bella is. That's probably my only peeve. I don't know anyone who is realistically that critical of themselves over things they don't have control over. Srs, get over it, Bella. You have the hottest boyfriend in the world. Cut yourself some slack. Jeez.

Also, I've heard a lot of my guy friends (completely jealous of Edward, obviously ) talk about how the book is completely sexist and it's an "allegory for Mormonism." ??? I can sort of see the sexist part, but someone please explain to me the Mormonism nonsense.

[*Faith*]

I've never thought about reading the books, didn't think it'd be my cup of tea but, I did get dragged to the cinema to watch it and was like wow! . I'm trying to get hold of a copy.

[razors_and_rosary]

apologies, loyal HP fans, but the little naive wizard does NOT compare to the drama and action of Twilight.

the sheer variety of characters, wide spread of genres, and the undeniable humour made it a dream to read. i finished the series in a week.

you say you think meyer's writing style is mediocre - my personal opinion is it was her sheer skill and flair that enabled me to get through the (edward-free ) body of New Moon. i dont think she was lucky. i think she was impassioned and talented.

shame about robert pattison. ¬_¬

im not obsessed, by the way. one of my friends is. it bugs me like hell that whenever a key word (edward, bella, seth, jasper, esme, twilight, eclipse, even swirzerland for christ's sake) comes up, BANG twilight reference. i just want to tell her to shuddup!!

hate the movie. love the books. r&r x

[Casey.]

I like the twilight books, they are not that bad, and they can hold my attention for more than a few seconds.But they don't challenge you to think.They don't challenge you at all.The language is so simple a child could read it.That said, I actually like Alice and Jasper, over Edward and Bella.

[KnightSniper]

Originally Posted by razors_and_rosary

apologies, loyal HP fans, but the little naive wizard does NOT compare to the drama and action of Twilight.

Naive wizard? While Harry Potter is not exactly my favorite series ever, Harry Potter had to fight for everything he achieved, losing friends, family, and mentors along the way, being unknowingly forced to live in a caustic, borderline abusive environment because it actually kept him safe, and meanwhile dealing with a curse and a legacy of being a "hero" when all he wanted was a normal life. Harry Potter was a tragic hero; The main characters of Twilight are poorly developed characters who end up getting everything they want in the end with minimal sacrifice.

the sheer variety of characters, wide spread of genres, and the undeniable humour made it a dream to read. i finished the series in a week.

Well, ignoring that this entire paragraph is painfully vague, I'm curious to hear what you think can be considered a "sheer variety of characters". And wide spread of genres? So far, all I've encountered is supernatural romance.

Undeniable humor? I'm sorry, could you point out where, because I must be missing it.

you say you think meyer's writing style is mediocre - my personal opinion is it was her sheer skill and flair that enabled me to get through the (edward-free ) body of New Moon. i dont think she was lucky. i think she was impassioned and talented.

Skill with what? Her descriptive vocabulary seems to be dominated so far in what I've read by three words: "perfect", "beautiful", and "smoldering". Hell, "perfect", according to the reader I'm using on my computer, is used 55 times alone just in the first book. She's the queen of subjective descriptions.

[razors_and_rosary]

alright, you asked for it...

___________________ HARRY POTTER COMPARISON RANT ___________________
Sane/apathetic readers have explicit permission to ignore all of this.

Twilight had much of its description gradually, in small chunks of insight, manageble chunks for all ages. It gave brief initial descriptions and allowed readers to add to these as they ploughed through the books. Each character gets his/her own time to shine, e.g., I left Eclipse with a far greater understanding and empathy of both Jasper and Rosalie.
HP's description comes thick and fast and constant, making it harder to get through and, though more atmospheric, a slower and less engaging read. I read up to the third book and, frankly, they didn't grip me at all.

Twilight's characters are evidently well-developed and thought through, and their reactions to various situations are understandable, if not instantly then later on. Everything fits together once a book is completed and the personalities of each individual are original and unrepeated.
HP's characters...are less described personally. I found I related less with them, cared less about what happened, and disliked every single one. Various parts/reactions (such as Hermione slapping Malfoy) seemed unpredictable and came pretty much out of nowhere.

Edward Cullen. So, so many people complain that Meyer has created the 'perfect man' which many of the fangirls will aspire to find and never meet. Can't they see his low self-esteem? His lack of self-control and his frustration? He is not perfect, none of the vampires are depicted as perfect, and though it may seem that way REMEMBER THAT THIS IS SEEN THROUGH BELLA'S EYES. She sees Edward as perfect. That is the only reason so many believe he is written to be so.
Harry Potter starts off naive, irritating and weedy with little confidence. When you hit book three, all of that vanishes instantly and he turns into a dark and haunted teenager. Where did that come from? Nobody knows. A completely unforseen and random transformation.

ok, ill stop now. i dislike harry potter. many fangirls are bitter at twilights exceeding popularity.
STOPPING. honest.
*supresses further contempt for both Rowling and HP*
r&r x

[Pandaloo]

Ha, there is so much controversy about Twilight and Harry Potter, Stephenie and J.K Rowling, Movie or Book this or that.

Hey, chill. It's a series of books, not everybody in the world is going to love it. It's a good book and if you like it then who cares, enjoy it, embrace it. If you hate it, just let it go.

I love Twilight, and yes, there are a lot of crazy obsessed, overratedness but oh well. I hate High School Music and that was highly overrated, but oh well.

People like stuff, people hate stuff, so blah. Who cares. It's all down to personal opinion. Some people might think the writing is better than other writings, personally, i dont mind or care, i just want a good story that will keep me interested.

[LillyImp]

I read twillight over a year ago, it was good. I didn't even realize till school started and everyone started carring those huge books around that it was even noticed! And then the harry potter thing, someone asked me what side I was on! She said she won't read them because she's a HP fan.

I turned down about five invites to see the movie. This whole thing is getting so overrated.

[Barbed Lungs]

Her writing is good, but not very good. I think it's the plot of the books that has made them so successful, and when reading the books i sometimes found i was getting annoyed with how long it takes her to advance the storyline, i thought Breaking Dawn was a little ridiculous wit the amount of pages and what actually happens in it.

[laurax]

Twilight was actually one of the books-to-films that ive actually seen and enjoyed (i was so ANGRY about Northern Lights, and i refused to watch Inkspell, Dark is Rising, Eragon, Tale of Despereaux etc, because I dont want them to mangle them in my mind).

granted, I watched the film before I read the book, but I think they adapted it well, even allowing for some minor changes (like about their reactions to kissing...). I enjoyed the film, appreciated Edward (though Im not a proper fan), and I think they did well picking Kristen to play Bella (I love her in Panic Room and Speak).

As for the quality of writing, I can hardly call them pieces of literary genius, but theyre definitely enjoyable, and I recently bought the lot! Of course, there are places where they could be improved, but for their audience of young teens into fantasy/romance/drama/vampires, they do pretty well to cater to their market.

I think its wrong for people to say "theyre rubbish" outright, because obviously its successful, or the film rights wouldnt have been bought, and there wouldnt be fan clubs. Duh! ANd its silly to compare them to Harry Potter, just because its a series of popular young adult fantasy fiction that got turned into a film! those are the only points of comparison! You cant say "one is good, the other is crap", because theyre different.

-breathes- okay, im done for now...

[dancinfool]

Yeah they're not the most AMAZING books in the world, but the Harry Potter series definitely aren't either.
I prefer Twilight... I think it's actually better written, but it's a matter of personal opinion, the series are very different.