Should I fight this guy?

[Resolute Runner]

Theres this guy at my school who's a real dick to me. Whenever he sits by me in class he always messes with my stuff. And he always turns to me and slaps my arms or hits me with pencils and stuff. He's that really annoying stereotypical bully football player who goes around trying to show his muscles.

I'm well known for being one of the best fighters in my school and I was thinking maybe its an ego thing with him? Fighting out of anger isn't really my thing—I just box some of the tough guys from school when they want to. It's kind of like a fast paced game of chess I know it sounds like I'm bragging but im just trying to understand whats going through his head. Maybe he thinks he'll be some dominant male by picking on me? He asked to box me last year and I accepted but he chickened out 3 days in a row. I didn't tell anyone about it so I don't know what his problem is this year.

People use to kick and hit me and call me names from 1st until 6th grade(thats how i learned to fight) and this guy is bringing back a lot of bad memories. Today he broke a 3 dollar pen that I just bought I don't wanna fight him because: my parents don't have the money to pay at court, and I honestly would destroy him. This guy is really pushing it and I don't think I can hold back much longer.

[OMFG!You'reActuallySmart!]

As someone who has fought, trains in martial arts and sometimes teaches some classes, if you're going to fight him, react in self-defense. In fact, the classes I sometimes teach are self-defense, ranging from basic blocking to disarming an armed opponent to knife-fighting, etc... . The other instructors as well as myself tell the students to only fight if you absolutely need to because many of the techniques are designed to break bones, cause tearing of ligaments and tendons, and hard strikes. I wouldn't advise you to fight because it's not necessary, however, if you are to fight, try to react in self-defense. Also, once you have reacted in self-defense, don't continue to attack, only do as much as necessary. For example, if someone attacks me with a knife (which has happened), I'm going to disarm them, possibly breaking a bone or two in the process. I'm not going to continue unless they do, or put them into a choke or joint-lock and only let go once they stop.

[Resolute Runner]

Originally Posted by The Man And XX Master

I wouldn't advise you to fight because it's not necessary

What do you recommend then? I already changed seats once and he moved next to me.

[chook14]

Do you think it would work if you tried completley ignoring him? I know that would be tough, as it sounds like he's being pretty intrusive, but if you could just not look at him, not react to his behaviour, and just act completley disinterested or absorbed in something else, it may just work. It sounds like this guy really wants to get some kind of reaction out of you. He probably does feel threatened like you said, and wants to prove he's better than you by pissing you off so much it makes you want to bash him up. The thing is though, that will just make you look like the bad guy, which is most likely his plan. Fighting like that never solves anything. It might be satisfying at the time, but then you've got to deal with the consequences. You'll get in a lot of trouble, and honestly this guy doesn't sound like he's worth it at all. You're obviously a really good fighter, so stay professional about it and don't let your frustration get the better of you. He'll give up eventually, and then you'll both know that you're the better person

[JKmadu619]

I don't know. You shouldn't be a door mat, but fighting probably won't get you very far. It's not middle school anymore. Fighting could get you in serious trouble. He thinks he's tough, but really compared to someone with even a week's worth of training his ass will be kicked.

He wants you to kick the shit out of him, and you get in trouble and look like the dick who beats people up. Really I would just laugh it off. Next time he's being an ass, just laugh. This an immature charade made by the bully, so laughing probably will end up ruining the fun of tormenting you. If you congragulate him no matter what stupid thing he does, eventually he'll feel that you get personal satisfaction when he bullies you.

- Justin

[Resolute Runner]

Ignoring doesn't help. I sat in a different seat again today and he moved over there with me and kept punching my arm when I was talking to my friend. And I really couldn't care less if people thought I was a dick or I got in serious trouble. All I know is that my parents don't have the money to pay and I don't want to make things difficult for them.

[OMFG!You'reActuallySmart!]

Originally Posted by Resolute Runner

And I really couldn't care less if people thought I was a dick or I got in serious trouble.

You're being dishonest here. You may not care about getting trouble with the school but by saying you care enough to not have your parents try to pay fines for something they will have difficulty affording, it implies you care about getting trouble.

If he's pestering you that much, have you turned around to him and ask what he wants, does he want to fight? If so, remind him that last time he wanted to, he chickened out 3 days in a row. Give him an ultimatum that he stops or you blab about his cowardice to the entire school.

The fact he's following you all around the room from seat-to-seat, implies he wants attention from you. When you're with your friends and he begins punching your arm, try to have your friends ask/tell him what he wants. Personally, if I were unable to ignore it, I would do one of three things. First, laugh at him by pointing out that his "punches" are pathetically weak, pretty much belittling him. Second, when he punches, you do an elbow block, which can be a bit difficult. When he punches, you have to be quick enough to have your elbow land on the top of his hand or straight at the base of the fingers. Third, a quick, painful, non-damaging wrist twist. It hurts for just a few minutes and there are many ways to do this but be sure to lighten up quickly, otherwise it can break the wrist or injure it. Alternatively, while standing, use your knee and weight to twist his knee. It's much harder to do and since you don't train in such techniques, I wouldn't advise it. Wrist twists can be done without many people seeing it and it won't leave large noticeable marks, unless you do damage it. As said, there are no many ways to do this.

[Resolute Runner]

My parents paying money isn't me getting in trouble. It's me sitting through a bunch of stuff and them having to pay money for what I did. I don't care what happens as long as it doesn't result in my parents not being able to pay rent and not having a place to stay... I'm not good at explaining things but I know how I feel so lets not turn this into a debate please?

I asked him what he wanted and he just did the "I don't know" thing with his hands and then pretended like he was going to slap me. He seems a little too determined for a wrist twist to work. He challenged me to play "bloody knuckles" 2 days ago because his athletics class had made him a "bamf" and he claims I broke his knuckle. He's just been using his left hand to harass me now. I'm afraid the only physical solution to this would be for me to actually fight him. I know that fighting wont solve anything because this guy is completely unreasonable, but it would make me feel so much better.

[MichWolverineFreak]

I personally would threaten him, then beat the shit out of him. I dont box, I wrestle, and i know i can take on anyone cuz no one at my school but 7 other people know how. My dead grandpa would always tell my dad to fight and it usually solved his problem.

[OMFG!You'reActuallySmart!]

Originally Posted by Resolute Runner

I asked him what he wanted and he just did the "I don't know" thing with his hands and then pretended like he was going to slap me. He seems a little too determined for a wrist twist to work. He challenged me to play "bloody knuckles" 2 days ago because his athletics class had made him a "bamf" and he claims I broke his knuckle. He's just been using his left hand to harass me now. I'm afraid the only physical solution to this would be for me to actually fight him. I know that fighting wont solve anything because this guy is completely unreasonable, but it would make me feel so much better.

Wrist twists are often used once you have blocked a punch or if he grabs you somewhere on the body. They work very well, although you need some training in how to do them as well as speed. When you do it properly, the average person will drop down because depending on the type of wrist twist, it somewhat relieves the pain, although once you apply further pressure, bending down will no longer help. More advanced ones (used also to defend against forward knife thrusts) will pain not just at the wrist but going full-force probably will dislocate the at least 2-3 bones in the arm and elbow, as well as breaking their grasp on the knife. The person may also fall to the ground by the momentum.

What is a "bamf"?

Fighting may not solve the problems because it could create further ones, especially if the guy has friends who would be willing to seek revenge on his behalf. I don't know if you've encountered a situation like this or not but to me, it seems like a very plausible one.

Although I'm well-trained, I do everything I can do avoid a fight. Part of this is because I don't believe it will solve the issues, it could create others, such as legal ones. I don't wrestle, I do train in judo, as well as goju-ryu karate, kyukoshin karate and self-defense. For example, kyukoshin tournaments involve bare-knuckle full contact sparring, no padding allowed other than cup and mouth guard. One point is given if you hurt the opponent, two points if you hurt them enough or they're too tired to continue. The self-defense I learn and help teach is when you have no way out of a situation and you're forced to fight, so injuries the person endured are considered necessary. You don't aim to punch at, say, their ribs, you aim so your fist will go through their ribs. The wrist twists as mentioned are part of the self-defense because if someone tries to stab me, I block or dodge the knife, and now I have their arm to play with. My point of this paragraph is I don't fight because not only do I think the issue can often be resolved otherwise, but also I fear that I'll cause grave injury to the person and land me in trouble.

[EndureEmo]

this reminded me of a TV show , the big tough football player was picking on the gay guy in his year , just for it to turn out the footballer was insucure about himself about his sexuality. ;/

so maybe hes just in a difficult place in his life. ? maybe peerpressur on his side?

im a huge fighter if someone pisses me off they will know about it. but i do also try and see it from there point of view also.

[armonia-]

Well actually fighting him would just cause you and the bully to be physically hurt and the loser would also be mentally hurt. If he does fight you, like someone else said above, act in physical defense. That way, you just tell the court or the teachers that you were defending yourself. But also give a punch or two to knock a tooth out for me, hahah I hate bullies so much.

[BDF]

I'd say hurt him, but don't harm him. If you're as good at self-defence/fighting as you say you are, you should know what I mean.

[Skeleton]

Violence is never the answer. Chances are, you'll get yourself into trouble and it just isn't worth it.

Have you tried to tell someone about it, a teacher at school or something? They could make it so you don't sit next to each other or have a word with him for you or you could even have a word with him yourself, ask him what his deal is but definitely don't fight him, you don't want to make the situation worse for yourself.

[JKmadu619]

Originally Posted by Resolute Runner

I really couldn't care less if people thought I was a dick or I got in serious trouble.

If you don't care then beat him shitless.

It's as easy as ignoring him or seeking help, or beating his ass down.

I if you don't want issues for your parents, then you will have to seek help or ignore him.

If you don't care either way, nothing is holding you back.

No martial arts class will teach you to fight first, think last. They all teach you to avoid a fight if you can, if you can't they teach you how to protect yourself.

- Justin

[Venenum]

Originally Posted by Skeleton

Violence is never the answer. Chances are, you'll get yourself into trouble and it just isn't worth it.

Have you tried to tell someone about it, a teacher at school or something? They could make it so you don't sit next to each other or have a word with him for you or you could even have a word with him yourself, ask him what his deal is but definitely don't fight him, you don't want to make the situation worse for yourself.

If teachers and such doesn't do something about it however, I see no other solution than violence.

You sound like a very cool guy, just tell him what you feel about him, and if he doesn't heed your warning it's time to outsmart him. There are several ways to fight in. The easiest being you letting him attack you, let him lose his mind, the more he wants to hurt you, the more you'll hurt him in self-defense.

Make sure you have friends to back you up, and support you. "The easiest way" should be considered last resort.

[Guile]

You could always claim he started it, and that you acted ins elf defense? Get a friend to go too, and he can "back up" your story...

[EndureEmo]

Originally Posted by Guile

You could always claim he started it, and that you acted ins elf defense? Get a friend to go too, and he can "back up" your story...

it usally dont matter who starts is, once both have thrown hit you both get in trouble
thats how it is in australian schools anyway

i got in a big fight 1 day i was just taking it all and than swung and hit her in the mouth we both got suspended for a week

[Wolfmanne]

Fight him. When I was being bullied I beat the bully up. Then he'll be scared of you and will avoid you. However make it look like he's the bully and you're not just beating him up. When he's bullying you do it not randomly.