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Post School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 03:22 PM

I'm not sure if this goes here, it just really made me think and I wanted some opinions.
As far as I know, pretty much every school has a filter on the internet that prevents the students from going on to 'inappropriate' pages online.
While this is a sensible idea, it doesn't work.
I found out today, that our school system has blocked sites like TeenHelp but for some reason, is perfectly okay with letting students enter pro-ana sites.
Am I the only one who thinks this is crazy?
Surely sites like these would cause more harm than helpsites right?
What do you guys think about it?
Should it be brought to the attention of the school?


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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 04:48 PM

I do think schools often filter all the wrong things. Personally, I would definitely bring the pro-ana sites to the attention of the school. If they're going to block TH, then they really ought to block more harmful sites.

Our school filtering system is ridiculous. It blocks pretty much everything and anything. We're not able to access anything that may be seen as anti-Catholic.
   
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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 04:50 PM

That does seem a little strange, after all, teenhelp is here in a postive way so it would only be helping students. In my school I can get on here so it's not a problem for me


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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 04:55 PM

Yeah they block stupid things sometimes. My school blocks Bing and Blogspot. Perfectly normal sites?
   
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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 06:00 PM

I don't know what pro ana sites are but I think its kinda stupid for your school to block teenhelp right now I'm in school,my school is really lay off with blocking sites they don't block anysite. You can literaly watch porn here.


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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 06:12 PM

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing it as a problem, none of my friends seemed to care, the only problem with alerting the school is explaining how I found this out, school project? Extra research?
Have to be careful.
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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 07:54 PM

Our school probably has the most ridiculous form of filtering - automatic word-based filtering. So, say, the Irish Chess Association's site is banned, however you can access any site you want by typing the word "proxies" (instead of "proxy") into google. Ridiculous.
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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 08:20 PM

Irish Chess Association?
Why???
What's wrong with that? Chess is fun...


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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 10:01 PM

I don't think that the schools intend to block sites that are actually harmless, such as a basketball site or chess site. With the amount of websites that are out there and with the amount that are made everyday and edited everyday, they probably use a system that filters out websites based on certain wording. For TeenHelp, there's a non-PG 13 part of the sex forum and it's likely that if that part gets detected, then the entire TH website would be filtered out. It may seem unfair but just think about the endless work and time involved for the school to sift through the websites to ensure they actually are inappropriate. This would involve going on those inappropriate websites to see if they actually deserve the status of inappropriate. In other words, they'd have to go onto porn sites just to ensure it truly is a porn site.

It may also be that the school purposely is blocking things like MySpace, Facebook and whatever else there is because certain profiles on there may be deemed inappropriate and so, the safest way is to block the entire site. While it does seem unfair, it's the simplest way.

In my view, while I do think it sometimes is a bit silly with what ends up being blocked, hopefully you can demonstrate enough constraint to go without the website for several hours until you return home or access it some other way (assuming it's not a website needed for an assignment).

At university, MySpace, FaceBook, Twitter and the other stuff isn't blocked, however, I do know that there is a filtering system, it's more lenient and less specific.
   
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Re: School internet filtering - October 19th 2009, 10:48 PM

That is kind of silly I mean yeah teen help can be seen as bad, but ALLOWING sites that PROMOTE eating disorders? frankly NUTS.

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Re: School internet filtering - October 20th 2009, 12:06 AM

Yeah I think that a lot of stuff that is blocked shouldnt be and some of the stuff that isent should be like pro ana sites thats insane.

I can barely research at the school because so many sites are blocked luckly I have a computer at home.

One day me and 3 of my friends were all on a website that had like quizes and stuff on it and we get on the next day and its blocked.

I think bringing up that pro ana sites arent blocked are a good idea. Less people that can get on those websites the better.


   
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Re: School internet filtering - October 20th 2009, 01:08 AM

I really think this should be discussed with your school. Just let them know you were doing a search and came across it and thought it should come to their attention that it isn't being blocked.

I know my school often filters by words, as well as common sites like myspace, facebook, etc. I have yet to try TeenHelp there though. It would probably be blocked. I looked up a band website for a project once and it said it was blocked under the 'Porn' category. I thought that was rather strange.


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Re: School internet filtering - October 20th 2009, 03:55 AM

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That does seem a little strange, after all, teenhelp is here in a postive way so it would only be helping students. In my school I can get on here so it's not a problem for me
Its not the sites that they are blocking, but the words they are blocking most of the time. They just enter words into a database and then it searches through the internet with sites that have those words in. Fun, games, sex, and so forth are some of the words. And because TH mainly has words like that for different themes, it is automatically blocked. Sometimes if needed from a student (with reason) or from a teacher of a site that they need to teach the class with or for research and they don't have a computer at home, etc, they can search engine a site and unblock it-- but in order to block, they use words. =)

I am young to know this, but I had the same question and I asked the technician at my high school that I went to.
   
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Re: School internet filtering - October 20th 2009, 09:40 AM

Our school only really block facebook and myspace.
   
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Re: School internet filtering - October 20th 2009, 01:00 PM

Schools always end up filtering the wrong sites. At my school, we used to put our browser software on a USB stick and use that on the school computers


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October 21st 2009, 04:57 PM

I agree 100% with filtering at schools and colleges. Yeah it's annoying, but think about it. If facebook, teenhelp, blogspot etc wasn't blocked, how many people would be sat in the library using the internet simply to go on those sites? And then there wouldn't be any computers free for those that actually wanted to do work. Think about it...

And yeah I'd say pro-ana sites should be banned.

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That does seem a little strange, after all, teenhelp is here in a postive way so it would only be helping students. In my school I can get on here so it's not a problem for me
A lot of people see it as a negative thing for someone with problems to be involved in, actually, and people at school/authority figures probably fall into that category.

Also, see my above post. It's not always about the site, just that by blocking sites like this that really aren't related to school work at all, you're encourging people to only use the computers in college/school to do work.

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Re: School internet filtering - October 21st 2009, 05:06 PM

At my secondary school practically all sites that were for 'socialising' so to speak were banned. Purely because of the lack of work that happened when they weren't. Sure teenhelp is a place helping teens, but I don't think it's necessary to be able to access it at school when you're there to work, and you have the ability to access it at home. If schools pay enough attention pro-ana sites will be blocked, as will proxy servers. I think it depends on the blocking system they're using.
At my uni, I haven't come across any blocked sites, but most of them are not for classes.


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