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21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 04:20 AM

I'm a huge Green Day fan, and I'm feeling fangirl-y and wanting others to share in my excitement, hahah.

I just listened to the entire 21st Century Breakdown album - which, if you haven't been keeping track, is the first Green Day album since the incredibly popular American Idiot in 2004 - and it's definitely amazing. Still missing some of the old school Green Day charm, but lovely nonetheless.

Anyone else listen to it yet, and what do you think? And if you haven't listened to any of it yet, are you going to, are you excited, etc?

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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 02:26 PM

I havent heard it yet, havent had time to sit down and listen to it right [ which needs to be done with Green Day]

But I cant wait till I get the chance :P



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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 03:42 PM

I've only heard "Know Your Enemy" and I quite like it. I'm not much of a Green Day fan but it is catchy!


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 04:11 PM

I haven't heard it yet,
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 04:45 PM

From the 4 songs I've heard from it the sound is boring and repetitive. The song "Know Your Enemy" (which I was horribly afraid would be a Rage Against the Machine cover) is just the phrase "Do you know the enemy?" or a similar one repeated over and over again for 3 minutes with the same few chords, just very dull. I guess it's good for easy listening. Don't get me wrong, I like it but it's not as great as Green Day fans will make it out to be. I used to quite like them but now Green Day just seems bland and dull and indistinguishable from the multitudes of other bands playing exactly the same music.
   
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 06:35 PM

I never have high hopes for Green Day anyways...so nothing to really be disappointed by.
   
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 07:33 PM

I haven't listened to it yet as I'm trying to wait until after my exams as a motivation tactic (the temptation, however, is unbearable...)

I CANNOT WAIT to hear this album as many people can tell I'm obsessed with Green Day and I'd probably still love them if they covered Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.

Don't know if it'll beat American Idiot or Dookie though...but I'm looking forward to it all the same




   
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 8th 2009, 11:39 PM

i listened to the album
and althought it is a good album i must admit i enjoy 2004's american idiot album more its a brilliant album




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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 9th 2009, 04:19 PM

I listened to it last night, and I'm listening to it again now. I really like it.

It's definitely not like "old" (pre-American Idiot) Green Day. But honestly- Billie Joe is 37 now. The whole band has grown up. They're not singing about the same stuff they were 10 or 15 years ago because they've matured. Don't get me wrong- I think their earlier albums are awesome. But I also think it's good that they're doing something new.

I was pretty excited to see 21st Century Breakdown on MTV's The Leak last night, haha.

21st Century Breakdown is definitely a "rock opera" like American Idiot. But at the same time, it's different. To me, it feels less "self-indulgent" almost. American Idiot was such a departure from anything Green Day had done before that I think it surprised a lot of people- including myself. I think a lot of people were upset because they felt like Green Day wasn't making that record for the fans of the old Green Day. Either way, I think it's a good album.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 9th 2009, 11:57 PM

I agree with you, Molly! I'm sick of people saying that Green Day sold out. They didn't sell out, they grew up. It would be completely out of place to hear them still singing about weed and masturbation when they're married, dads, and almost 40! I think they've always written songs about what is important to them, but what's important to them has changed over the years. Then again, I'm slightly biased because everything they do is genius in my eyes.

Anyway, anyone who listened to the album should tell me which songs they like best. My absolute favorite is Before The Lobotomy. I'm also liking Murder City, Static Age, and Last Night On Earth.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 10th 2009, 12:10 AM

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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 12th 2009, 03:58 PM

I think it's sounds way different.. And it doesn't fit the things I like. I mean American idiot was good, and dookie was to but the rest isn't so much.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 18th 2009, 03:37 AM

I've only heard Know Your Enemy and it's good, but I don't think they'll ever top American Idiot.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 18th 2009, 06:48 PM

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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 18th 2009, 06:58 PM

Even the title of the album is a let-down... It souds like a teeny-bopping pop compilation album.

And 'Know your enemy' just sounds really tame. Greenday used to be different and punky, but now they are just...boring...

I watched their 'Live at Abbey Road' the other day, and the contrast between the new songs and old songs was unreal. Even the American Idiot songs sounded punk compared to 21st century breakdown.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 18th 2009, 08:59 PM

Greenday were never punk

real punk is:

Black flag
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 18th 2009, 11:34 PM

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Greenday were never punk

real punk is:

Black flag
Dead Kennedys
minor Threat
Circle jerks
The Exploited
Uk subs
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7 seconds
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Madball
Seige
Rancid
The 4-skins
Lars fredrickson and the Bastards
Amebix
Chaos uk
Crass
Nausia
Heresy
Capalist Casualties
The Misfits
Husker Du

etc...
<3 Minor Threat and Bad Brains. Green Day is just mainstream pop punk turned generic stadium rock. If you really like sludgy punk (from the looks of your list), give a listen to the Birthday Party...

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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 19th 2009, 03:22 AM

To me, it's not as good as some of their earlier stuff. Really good, but not "omfg i want to have this album's babies" good. Insomniac and Nimrod are still my favorite albums of theirs.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 19th 2009, 05:18 AM

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Greenday were never punk

real punk is:

Black flag
Dead Kennedys
minor Threat
Circle jerks
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Uk subs
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Agnostic Front
Madball
Seige
Rancid
The 4-skins
Lars fredrickson and the Bastards
Amebix
Chaos uk
Crass
Nausia
Heresy
Capalist Casualties
The Misfits
Husker Du

etc...
I've never heard of any of those bands. I guess I'm not really a punk person?

I'm not really a big fan of Green Day, though. Some of their songs are okay, but they all sound a bit the same to me. I used to like a lot of their songs, but they easily become boring. Plus, unless I'm going crazy, I have a hard time understanding what they're even saying in half of their songs. But I guess they're... alright. But I wouldn't say good.





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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 19th 2009, 07:26 AM

Greenday came from the so called 90's 'revival' of pop punk, along with the likes of the Offspring and such
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 24th 2009, 09:33 PM

i hate reviving old threads, but 21st century breakdown is a huge letdown. american idiots storyline was pretty vague to begin with... but 21st century breakdown makes aboslutely NO sense. there are two characters... and thats pretty much it. i cant figure out anything even after reading and re-reading the liner notes. also, green days originality keeps going down hill.
compare these songs:

!viva la gloria! - letterbomb (american idiot)
before the lobotomy - no one knows (kerplunk) (this one is a stretch hahah but thats what i first thought when i heard it
?viva la gloria? (little girl) - misery (warning)
restless heart syndrome (solo) - boulevard of broken dreams (american idiot) (EXACT same tone.)
horseshoes and handgrenades - main offender - the hives. idk if its better or worse that they arent ripping off themselves for this one.
the static age - church on sunday (warning)
21 guns - boulevard of broken dreams (american idiot)
american eulogy (mass hysteria) - deadbeat holiday (warning)

all in all, 21st century breakdown is only decent. the only solid tracks are east jesus nowhere, christians inferno and murder city. dookie will always be greendays best. american idiot a close second


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 25th 2009, 01:57 AM

OH MY GOD!!!!

I never really listened to Green Day except for American Idiot, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, Wake Me Up When September Ends and Holiday. I listened to 21st Century Breakdown and immediately fell in love! It is so wondeful, I love the lyrics and I am a big fan of 80s music and I thought that some of the songs were eighties-esque.

Anyways that album was pure magic I listen to it everyday!
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 26th 2009, 04:42 AM

It's one bad CD. It also really doesn't help the fact that they have really bad names for songs in the first place.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 26th 2009, 01:39 PM

I used to be a big fan of Green Day, well the old Green Day. When they brought out American Idiot in 2004, I didn't really make much of the album, but came to like it eventually.

I haven't heard their lastest album, but I'm interested to listen to it - I hope it doesn't let them down, because their a classic band and when their at their best - they really do rock.


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 29th 2009, 12:58 AM

I never considered Green Day to be punk, but that doesn't stop me from loving them. I agree with you though, Josh. Viva La Gloria? reminded me of Misery right off of the bat. And if you look at 21st Century Breakdown, the chord progression is almost the exact same thing as in Jesus of Suburbia, just slightly different strumming.

I definitely don't think it's their best album; my favorite has always been Kerplunk. But I don't agree with those who say all the songs sound alike either. I mean, if you listen to Christian's Inferno, and then Last Night On Earth, I don't even think they sound like the same band. It's all just a matter of opinion, though. =)


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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 29th 2009, 02:22 AM

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interesting. actually, green day came up in the late 80's/early 90's East Bay punk scene in california, alongside one band that you mentioned: Rancid. If you're going to negate the bands that became popular in the 90s punk revival, you have to include Rancid...as they were one of the biggest bands in that revival.
   
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 29th 2009, 08:11 AM

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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 29th 2009, 08:11 PM

I know who Operation Ivy is, but do you realize that their most legendary album "Energy" came out only one year before Green Day's first album, meaning that the two were contemporaries of each other. Also, did you know that the lead guy from Green Day actually wrote a song for Rancid?

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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 30th 2009, 09:14 AM

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Also, You don't like Bad Relgion, NOFX, or The Mighty Mighty Bosstones?
Energy is a good Album. Bad religion and Nofx are good bands, never really listend to The Mighty Mighty Bosstones.

Nofx's album ' Punk in drublic' is amazing and my faviroute bad religion album is probabley 'how can hell be any worse?'

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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 31st 2009, 10:12 PM

you might enjoy the bosstones. they are a third wave "ska core" band, and they were very popular in the 1990s.

Interesting that you should mention Punk In Drublic; did you know that, since it's release, that album has sold over 1 million copies (certifying it, in america, as "Plantinum")? Just goes to show you that "punk rock" can be popular and still be good.
   
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Re: 21st Century Breakdown. - May 31st 2009, 11:57 PM

wow i'm really surprised to see so many people don't like it! i absolutely LOVE this album. if we're comparing it to american idiot, then i'd probably have to go with american idiot just edging it, but they're really different.


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