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What do proxies do? - July 13th 2009, 03:04 AM

So, I have no idea what exactly a proxy server is? I somehow have proxies turned off on Firefox, and I'm wondering, does that make much of a difference, if it's off or on? I have no idea what a proxy even is, so I guess I'm just wondering, should a proxy server be turned on or off?





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Re: What do proxies do? - July 13th 2009, 05:02 AM

I don't really know much, but in school you use it to get around filters so we can play games in the computer lab. It changes the ip address of the website you are going to, I think it can also hide your own ip address as you browse the internet. I think if you have it turned on in firefox it will be harder for websites to track your ip address and sell it to companies or whatever.

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Re: What do proxies do? - July 13th 2009, 11:06 AM

a proxy is basically a server that allows you to browse the internet through there ip rather than yours. So if you went to a website that tracked your ip it would come back to where the server is and not to you. Its basically like a when you where a mask people see the mask instead of your face, when you are on the internet they see that server rather than your computer. I hope that made sense O.o
   
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Re: What do proxies do? - July 13th 2009, 11:47 AM

Deppy pretty much has it right (welcome to the boards, by the way). It retrieves information for you. You give a command to the proxy server, which carries out the task for you. That's why you can get around school filters. The filters block websites for that school's IP address. Since you'd be using a proxy server that does the browsing for you, the filters wouldn't work. Take that, school administration!


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Re: What do proxies do? - July 13th 2009, 03:25 PM

Technically, the IP address has nothing to do with the school filter. The school filters look at the website address and if it's on the block list, it will deny access. Some advanced filters will scan the content of the page first, so if there's any keywords that the school doesn't want students accessing, it will block it.

The way the proxy gets around the school filter is that it doesn't know you're connecting to a blocked website. If you use a web proxy, the school filter only sees the address of the proxy, therefore doesn't realise where the real content is coming from.
If you use a proxy in Firefox (with an IP address), you're effectively connecting to a computer on another part of the planet which acts as a go-between. Again, school filters think you're connecting to some random place, and doesn't know that the real content is coming from a blocked website.

Proxies are also good for getting around websites that make you wait based on your IP, such as RapidShare. Once you've downloaded something, you have to wait a while before you can download something else. But if you go through a proxy, RapidShare won't see your real IP so it will think you're someone completely new. Subsequently, it will give you the download without waiting.

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Re: What do proxies do? - July 13th 2009, 05:52 PM

I should note that it generally isn't a good idea to use proxies at school :P
So many people go on very obvious sites and that isn't going to cover you if anyone checks any less. Going on example "Hidemyass.com" (No idea if that is one) is a little obvious, so watch out :P


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Re: What do proxies do? - July 14th 2009, 12:04 AM

Yeah, proxys aren't good at school, you can get into lot's of trouble.

My school blocks proxys amongst other things so good luck to anyone here that tries to use them.

I guess the only useful reaseon to use a proxy is if you're downloading something with a limit. i.e. from mega-upload or somewhere it only lets you download one thing per 75mins.


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Re: What do proxies do? - July 14th 2009, 11:08 AM

The main real use for proxies is for cyber-dissidents (ie chinese, iranian and israeli free speech activists and "hacktivists") to bypass security measures, by using a seemingly "safe" website to fetch stuff off other websites for it. For example if Teenhelp.org had proxy software installed, then you could go onto Teenhelp.org and using the proxy grab files from websites you're not meant to be looking at, and all will seem ok because the files are coming from Teenhelp.org and not directly from the other site. Sort of like getting older friends to buy you alcohol (we've all been there ).
Also on the flipside if someone tries to attack you, they'll end up attacking Teenhelp.org because that's who was getting the files. So a proxy's like the middle-man in dodgy dealings
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Re: What do proxies do? - July 14th 2009, 02:02 PM

See, what sucked with my old school's internet is that it connected through the local council's WAN, which acted like a proxy, so it made using that to get to another proxy that much more complicated...






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Re: What do proxies do? - July 14th 2009, 02:23 PM

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See, what sucked with my old school's internet is that it connected through the local council's WAN, which acted like a proxy, so it made using that to get to another proxy that much more complicated...


Ours did that too, but we just ended up using web-proxies like the Surrogafier network. Every time they blocked one, we'd just find more to take their place.

My college network is laughable though. They force IE to connect through their proxy to filter it, but IT students have access to a sandbox. We installed Firefox in the sandbox. No filters + 100mb fibre network = WIN.


   
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Re: What do proxies do? - July 14th 2009, 03:55 PM

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Ours did that too, but we just ended up using web-proxies like the Surrogafier network. Every time they blocked one, we'd just find more to take their place.

My college network is laughable though. They force IE to connect through their proxy to filter it, but IT students have access to a sandbox. We installed Firefox in the sandbox. No filters + 100mb fibre network = WIN.
We've kept tabs on which words were filtered. Once the IT guy filtered google searches for "proxy" but not for "proxies" And also Yahoo Questions I think has a proxy, and it's un-bannable He rarely checks anyway...
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Re: What do proxies do? - July 16th 2009, 09:44 AM

Proxies circumvent the internet server your using
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Re: What do proxies do? - July 21st 2009, 05:40 AM

A proxy is something that changes your IP address. Your IP (Internet Port) address is basically your computer's internet identity. If you change it with a proxy, it hides your computer's personal IP and can help you get past blocked sites and filters.

An example of a proxy server is hidemyass.com. When you type a website into the search bar on hidemyass, it will take you to a website with a private IP that is not your own.

I hope I helped. They're a little difficult to explain
   
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