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Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 04:35 AM

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Hey all. Whilst I've actually done a class on this, I need the opinion of others here. What's your thought on storylines in games? I mean, I've been playing Dragon Age:Origins a lot and I LOVE the backstory, all the history, culture and writing that's gone into it all, of all the politics, the suspect, subjective views of various historical events, and even the whole premise. I mean, at first glance, it all seems to be a generic fantasy world, but DAMN, there's touches in there that are so beautifully done, it's as complex as any book, more so in some cases.

I mean, even though you never see this, the accounts various characters give of the ancient Tevinter and the ruling blood mages and all that other cool stuff. It's epic. And I like epic.

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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 04:52 AM

I don't have any in particular but when I watch someone play a video game, I'm all: "Don't skip the cutscenes fool, I'm more interested in the story than the gameplay."
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 08:00 AM

Hmm...Half Life of course, Portal, and Left 4 Dead (I kinda like it's simplicity rather than stringing together some ridiculous plot). At the moment these are the only ones that come to mind.


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 12:49 PM

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Grandia II

Shadow Hearts, even though the ending was AWFUL... I really enjoyed the storyline throughout the game.

And going old school... Wild Arms.


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 01:11 PM

For me my all time favourite games for story line would have to be Final Fantasy. There is just SO much that was put into some of the games. I admit, some games in that series didn't have a good story or weren't that great. But I think 6, and 9 had an amazing story and really hit home.
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 01:24 PM

Gun has a decent story line,
Getting Up is pretty awesome
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty great story line and plenty of plot twists
the Devil May Cry Series. for sure my fav series of games have a pretty good story.
   
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 02:36 PM

Good games with a good storyline, Mass Effect series, Fable series, Star Wars KotoR series, Bioshock series, Army of Two series, The Elder scrolls series, M&M, and the FEAR series... just to name a few.
   
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 03:32 PM

Jade Empire
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Morrowind
Half-life series
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I always watch cut-scenes :P


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 04:17 PM

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I don't have any in particular but when I watch someone play a video game, I'm all: "Don't skip the cutscenes fool, I'm more interested in the story than the gameplay."
Exactly. Can't stand watching someone playing a game and mashing buttons to skip the talk and cut scenes. Storyline is what makes the game.

Story can be kinda difficult. I'm trying to develop a story for an RPG I'm making myself, but keeping it exciting and original is a real challenge. :/
Some of my favorites.

FF6
FF7
FF9
FF13
Shadow Hearts
Front mission 3
Legacy Of Kain series

Few key things I like in a storyline.
-Corruption. Political corruption makes a good story. Like the Shinra in FF7.
-Complex and lots of extras. Like how you can play some games 10 times over and still discover new pieces of the plot or be figuring out little extras in the story.
-Interesting characters. A wide mix of personalities can really make a game and get you more involved. One of the reasons I hated 12 was bland characters who you ended up not caring about.
-Plenty of extras, sub-plots and things to explore.

I remember my ex playing Dragon Age a lot, impressed me quite a bit, seemed an extremely diverse and interesting game.


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 05:29 PM

I didn't quite know what to say so I asked my friend to comment. It's always nice to see what someone else thinks
[The storyline's purpose is to] to captivate an audience , create a world that is believable , that a player can engross themselves in and relate to. What's essential is a good main character , good plot with a LOT of twists [to prevent it from] predictable, thereby keeping the gamer at the edge of his seat andat all times enthralled, lost in the experiance. The antagonist has to be cunningly evil or have some sick way of destroying the world or killing people. Needs to be DAMN strong compared to the main character at the beginning!

What [the storyline] should focus on is creating an imaginative world, the scenery and stuff can be standard , but its the conflict between the characters and the main goal of saving the world and whatnot that makes a game enthralling. Music and voice overs are secondary to that
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 09:27 PM

Red Dead Redemption has a pretty damn good story line. One of the best in years, at least I think so.

Other games with notably good storylines are:
-Deus Ex.
-Zelda, Ocarina of Time.
-Fallout 3.
-Red Alert/Command and Conquer series. (I LOVE their live action cut scenes.)I am so pissed they randomly decided to bring out C & C 4 on PC only.
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 11:45 PM

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I don't have any in particular but when I watch someone play a video game, I'm all: "Don't skip the cutscenes fool, I'm more interested in the story than the gameplay."
I agree, it's insanely irritating when someone presses everything to skip them.

I though Star Wars KotOR had a good storyline, and Riven- ages beyond myst, though that storyline was more uncovering the backstory than playing it but either way, it captivated me.


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 16th 2010, 11:52 PM

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Re: Storylines in Games - June 17th 2010, 12:21 AM

Final Fantasy is an obvious one, always captivates me and keeps me there until the game is finished. May as well throw Kingdom Hearts in there as well.

Silent Hill I think is outstanding. The symbolism, metaphors, attention to detail, nods to other games in the series...it's all amazing. I've always said that someone really messed up in the head must've created this game series, but thank God that they are because it is wonderfully dark and enthralling.




   
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 17th 2010, 03:38 AM

Gah, how could I forget Silent Hill and Kingdom Hearts. Thank you!


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 17th 2010, 08:24 AM

I would like to add myself that it is perfectly OK for a game to have a bad storyline, games can survive perfectly well on gameplay alone. However if it has a bad storyline, don't emphasise the storyline! I've got a feeling many producers feel under pressure to bring their lacking storyline to the fore because that's what everyone is craving these days, but there's nothing worse than having your attention constantly brought to the game's weak point.

As an aside to that, I loved Bad Company 2's approach to the storyline. If you don't know already, BC2's storyline is a self-mocking parody of modern FPS's ridiculous storylines, and on the one hand the game morphed smoothly between gameplay and cut scene along with some scripte in-game banter at various points; however they were still very successful at separating story and gameplay, perhaps as a comment on FPS's use of complex backstory to justify yet another linear firefight through a 3rd world village... In essence you were able to switch completely between story mode and gunning mode very quickly and smoothly, without either feeling separate or detached from the other. I appreciate that.
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 17th 2010, 12:26 PM

Erm, I like Prince of Persia although I'm not really good at it. I was playing the Sands of Time the other day and the film and the game don't have the same plot which is weird


   
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 27th 2010, 12:08 PM

Haha In fact for me to play a game it MUST have a decent storyline for me to follow, I play a lot of RPGs so the rich background and story is usually present.

To forego listing out lots of games I should just say that anything made by Bioware or Bethesda is a must for storylines, Rockstar games can make a goo story aswell.

Oh and the fable series they are amazing aswell.

I think the best storyline I have come across is probably a tie between Mass Effect (Must. have. third.) ((and they are turning that into a film )) and Kotor, god those really got me invested into the characters. Wouldn't top playing if the house burnt down.

Dragon age comes in as a close second though, Maybe I am just bitter because of Morrigan :P


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 27th 2010, 02:40 PM

As an aside, you can actually get a t-shirt that says "Morrigan Disapproves, -12 </3"




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Re: Storylines in Games - June 27th 2010, 04:10 PM

Dragon Age was my first Bioware video game and I was dazzled by its storyline and game play. I also love games from Rock Star like the GTA series. I also love games from Paradox, they don't rely on graphics but on content. I also like open ended games but most gets repetitive, well not if you got deep imagination.
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Re: Storylines in Games - June 27th 2010, 05:02 PM

My faveourite games with a great storyline are;

Zelda - Ocarina Of Time

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Re: Storylines in Games - June 27th 2010, 05:03 PM

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Re: Storylines in Games - June 29th 2010, 05:42 AM

I liked the storyline to the second Assassin's Creed, especially closer to the end. The whole "super conspiracy" is a really cool idea except I think they might ruin it with the third one.

I also loved the story lines in Tales of Symphonia and Abyss. They were long but worth it in the end.


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Re: Storylines in Games - June 29th 2010, 08:25 AM

I'll go ahead and say it: The Halo Series. Most people will know why.
The Gears of War Trilogy also has a great storyline.


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I'll go ahead and say it: The Halo Series. Most people will know why.
I have to concur, much that I find the Halo storylines particularly emotionally uninvolved they have such a depth to them.... I was talking to a guy who's working on a Halo RP and I was amazed just how smoothly the various plots connected, as part of some larger hidden epic.
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Re: Storylines in Games - July 5th 2010, 06:37 PM

I thought the Diablo series was pretty good, but the game's kind of old so... ya...
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Re: Storylines in Games - July 6th 2010, 07:06 PM

Na, the Diablo games had a really good storyline, or relatively so anyways. I really enjoyed it anyhows, I felt I really wanted to go save the world from Diablo and his evil buddies. ^^.




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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 09:52 AM

Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3, and 4 ^_^ amazing games that made me laugh, cry, and salute to the well done characters and plot It constantly makes you ask "WHAT IN RA'S NAME???? HOW?!?!?!" but if you look at the big picture it all somehow makes perfect sense Combined with an epic score and incredibly tense gameplay, this is a series you'll never forget ^_^ Sorry I'm really wanting to play them right now


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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 10:06 AM

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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 03:47 PM

The Final Fantasy series is an obvious one as someone said. I like the Fable series, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Dragon Age (even the expansion pack wasn;'t that bad), Red Dead Redemption, MGS1,2,3,4
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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 03:52 PM

What about Tomb Raider, the original?

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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 03:57 PM

The original is the only good one in my opinion. I just never have liked Tomb Raider afterwards because they changed it too much
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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 04:30 PM

I still liked 2,3 and 4 though. They still kept up the same themes and I believe was made by mostly the same team of developers too.
5 alright but very meh and felt unintuitive. The others....don't get me started -_-;;




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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 04:48 PM

Ratchet and Clank series hands down probably my favorite back story. They keep it going every title they release and the stories make the games playable. Games like the Call of Duty series don't really have a storyline other than the short single player campaigns but primarily single player games are always fun to play if the storyline is good.
   
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Re: Storylines in Games - July 20th 2010, 05:03 PM

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5 alright but very meh and felt unintuitive. The others....don't get me started -_-;;
I loved the first two, but the problem was you can't satisfy the critics.

The first one wasn't given a 10 by most people due to lack of gunplay and too many puzzles. Then the second one gave more gunplay and then the critics marked it down for having too much gunplay and not as many puzzles.

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Re: Storylines in Games - July 22nd 2010, 08:34 AM

Haha

I always play FPS, rarely any storyline

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Re: Storylines in Games - July 23rd 2010, 07:51 AM

I loved Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts, because both made me really think about the society within the game. The complexity intrigued me, and I love them both dearly
   
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Re: Storylines in Games - July 23rd 2010, 08:39 AM

Final Fantasy 7 & 9 are both near and dear to my heart for their storyline and characters (well, most of them. Not Quina. ;>>). Anything by Bioware is good; Knights of the Old Republic I & II, Mass Effect, etc. I love the classic stories behind Lufia II and Breath of Fire III. Lufia II especially I highly recommend to any RPG fan; it's one of the most fun games I've every played. The storylines behind Warcraft and Starcraft are also really good. If I think of more later I'll come back and add them. ^^;


The atoms that make up you and me were born in the hearts of suns many times greater than ours, and in time our atoms will once again reside amongst the stars. Life is but an idle dalliance of the cosmos, frail, and soon forgotten. We have been set adrift in an ocean whose tides we are only beginning to comprehend and with that maturity has come the realization that we are, at least for now, alone. In that loneliness, it falls to us to shine as brightly as the stars from which we came.
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