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Saving rain water. A crime. - August 22nd 2016, 08:19 AM

Hey guys! Did you know collecting rain water was a crime? I recently got to know that collecting rain water illegally and saving it for later use, is a crime in the United States. Even people were imprisoned for doing so. http://www.torontodefencelawyers.com...tch-rainwater/ However, it's not a criminal offence in Canada so far. But I really don't understand what's wrong with doing that. What do you guys have to say about it?

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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 22nd 2016, 08:50 AM

Well it isn't an offence in Australia, in fact they give you water tanks to do exactly that. Having it illegal to collect rain water is actually ridiculous to me, especially seeing as the water is not owned by the government. It's also more sustainable to collect rainwater than buying it or using it from the tap all the time, so that is just silly not being allowed to collect it.

Basically I feel sorry for America and their silly laws, but we'll go with it I guess.

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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 22nd 2016, 09:04 AM

That seems ridiculous. It's not like it's hurting anything.

Where I live we can use rain buckets. Personally, we have rain buckets that we use to water the plants when we're on water bans so we're using less water because we still have to use the sprinkler system to water the other plants.
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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 22nd 2016, 09:19 AM

We have a cistern to save rain water, which we then use to water our plants and I don't even remember the last time the cistern was empty. I have thought about this for a while and I still couldn't come up with a single legitimate reason why saving rain water shouldn't be allowed. It doesn't even affect the water cycle as long as we don't take that water out of the system or add any substances and any law telling us otherwise is just ridiculous.

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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 22nd 2016, 02:51 PM

The reason it is illegal is to help prevent a lot of sitting water. Sitting water can have a lot of bacteria, larvae, and other unpleasant things. Right now especially, it should continue being illegal because of Zika. Sitting water just spreads the disease because the mosquitoes but their young in it. Brazil collects rain water and look at how hard Zika hit them. It's to help prevent stuff like Zika spreading so quickly. It's quite smart if you ask me.
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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 22nd 2016, 11:15 PM

Crazy Americans. It's not an offence to do it here in the UK

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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 22nd 2016, 11:20 PM

It is only illegal in America in certain states. In my state, Georgia, it is legal if you follow certain guidelines.

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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 23rd 2016, 07:49 AM


I just typed "why is rainwater harvesting illegal" into google and got some quick answers.

It seems like these people required permits to build their rainwater storage facilities. These weren't bathtubs placed under gutter pipes. It sounds like this guy was building a several thousand liter storage tank/tanks. He applied for a permit, got denied, then built it anyway.

I do think making rainwater harvesting controlled in this way is strange though. Rules like that do what precisely? Protect water suppliers? Although people are also saying that building certain water storage facilities raises groundwdater levels. I know that this can then damage building foundations, cause mould/rot in some houses. Also, in a region with water shortages... privately stockpiling water can disrupt the regional water cycle, and deprive other people of water. These things are mentioned in the link.

Imagine a village, and someone builds a property on a piece of land where the river is passing through. They chose to build a dam and control the water somehow, depriving the water supplier downstream of his supply, and depriving other residents too. It's not really "right". This has happened, in China/India... "
Brahmaputra" dam. And India is pissed off.

Anyhow, the situation is not quite as extreme as it looks at first glance. It's not entirely illegal, and there are some good reasons for controlling this in some areas.


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Re: Saving rain water. A crime. - August 23rd 2016, 08:39 PM

I'm from Michigan and I always thought it was illegal here. Some websites are saying it is legal. I understand why it would be illegal for health reasons, but at the same time, it does seem kind of ridiculous. I just don't collect rainwater. Its not the end of the world if I can't collect it.

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