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A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - February 27th 2017, 12:51 AM

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"CYPRESS, TEXAS—A 17-year-old transgender boy completed an undefeated season Saturday by winning a Texas state girls wrestling title made controversial by criticism from those who believe the testosterone he’s taking as he transitions from female to male created an unfair advantage."

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Re: A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - February 27th 2017, 04:47 AM

Honestly, he probably did have an advantage however it also depends how long he has been taking testosterone for that would indicate if it has even affected him in any great way that would change the way he would perform off testosterone, but the article didn't mention how long he had been taking testosterone that I could find. I might be misunderstanding the article, but from the article, it did say they were basing it from birth certificates anyway so really it is their own fault that he was competing in that division and that there is so much criticism. If they don't want it to be unfair, they shouldn't have made it unfair in the first place. Although I doubt the winning team is complaining, they did win.


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Re: A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - February 27th 2017, 04:50 AM

I honestly believe that he basically cheated and the title should be taken away from him. Because even though technically he is still a girl he has boy hormones there for he should have been wrestling with boys. Now i didn't read the article. BUT if they did base it on birth certificates then the boy isn't at fault at all.


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Re: A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - February 27th 2017, 03:25 PM

Yeah I'm just wondering who decided to put him in the girl's team and why? I do not think it was his choice. There are usually the higher ups or judges or whoever makes the rules of the game that divides the players in the first place. They probably did not respect that he has transitioned and want to complain about it too. That's not his fault.

On the other hand, I wonder if it would be fair if he was put on the all boys team because would they pick on him if he cannot play as well? I know he is on testosterone hormones but it could still be that he is so used to playing on girl's teams that if he were placed in a guy's team, he would not perform to their standard and that can cause problems for him and maybe even bullying.

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Re: A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - February 28th 2017, 04:36 AM

Hi,

I have read a few articles regarding this topic. The link that you have posted does not give an important piece of information, the fact that Mack Beggs prefers to wrestle with boys but the state policy requires him to wrestle against the gender listed on his birth certificate. Since he is passionate about wrestling his family and he took the decision to go with the rules. I don't blame him at all.

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"I would rather have a chance to compete than not compete at all," he said, according to CNN.
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So, not only was a transgender boy forced to participate in the girl's competition but after he won his victory is being questioned. So fair for talking about unfair advantages. Yes, he might have had an advantage due to the testosterone he was taking but did he have a choice? Was his choice limited to participating against the girls and not participating at all?

Does this mean that he has to give up sports until he transitions completely and by that age, he might not be able to compete because he lost out on years of practice and possible tournaments?


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Re: A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - March 1st 2017, 04:25 AM

^^^^I agree with the above.

If the person was required to compete with the gender on their birth certificate they are not at fault for this at all. Maybe the state they live in, or the school district, should take this in to consideration. What's that saying, you can't have your cake and eat it too? They can't expect someone who is trying to transition (taking testosterone) to not have an unfair advantage. If they want the competition to be fair maybe they should let the person compete with the boys like they want.


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Re: A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - March 1st 2017, 03:34 PM

Testosterone is well established as a performing enhancing drug. As such, unless there is a legitimate medical reason in which testosterone is necessary for health reasons, like abnormally low testosterone levels, then you should not be allowed to participate in physical sports. (and no, hormone therapy for the gender confused is not a legitimate medical reason)

I am also curious of how many of you would support the right for a biological male who identify as female to wrestle with girls and whether you would accept that person who use their natural physical advantages to win the championship as a legitimate and fair winner. After all, most of y'all are saying that the girl in this situation should have the right to wrestle with the boys, so you should also be supportive of the opposite too. Otherwise that is sexist.


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Re: A 17-year-old transgender boy.... - March 3rd 2017, 12:53 AM

In Michigan, there isn't a girls league at all. It's probably because there arent enough girl wrestlers. What they do instead is have everybody wrestle in the same league, so a guy could be wrestling a girl at any given time assuming that a girl is in his weight class. (No, this hasn't happened to me)
I wrestled for 4 years and I would say that the sport is definitely more based on skill than strength. I saw one of our guys get his ass handed to him by a girl not necessarily because he was weaker than her, but because she could wrestle circles around him any day of the week. However, at the state level you can assume that most of the wrestlers are to some extent equally skilled give or take a little bit. The extra strength from the testosterone can probably make the difference.


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