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So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 20th 2009, 01:38 AM

Wrong. At least, according to California.

Calif regulators find pot smoke causes cancer - Yahoo! News
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SAN FRANCISCO – Marijuana smoke has joined tobacco smoke and hundreds of other chemicals on a list of substances California regulators say cause cancer. The ruling Friday by the Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment likely will force pot shops with 10 or more employees to post warnings. Final guidelines are expected by the time warning requirements take effect in a year.
The listing only applies to marijuana smoke, not the plant itself.
Spokesman Sam Delson says the state agency found marijuana smoke contains 33 of the same harmful chemicals as tobacco smoke.
Delson says the findings came from a review of more than 30 scientific papers.
California's Proposition 65 requires businesses to warn consumers of chemicals that cause cancer or reproductive harm.
Or, in the UK: Chemicals in Marijuana Smoke May Harm DNA - Yahoo! News
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FRIDAY, June 19 (HealthDay News) -- The smoke from cannabis, the plant from which marijuana is derived, contains compounds that can damage DNA and increase the risk of cancer just like tobacco smoke, says a new study from the United Kingdom.
In laboratory tests, Rajinder Singh from the University of Leicester and colleagues found certain carcinogens in cannabis smoke in amounts 50 percent greater than those found in tobacco smoke. They noted that light cannabis use could possibly prove to be even more damaging because cannabis smokers usually inhale more deeply than cigarette smokers....
Note: I don't frankly care about legalization of Marijuana. It can be 100% legal for all I care. However, don't turn this thread into another pot argument. It appears to be clear though that Marijuana smoke is dangerous in a similar manner to Tobacco smoke, so there goes that argument for pot.
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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 20th 2009, 04:27 AM

yeah, everyone i know says it damages your lungs and stuff less. now pot doesn't even have that.

wow, that is weird. stuff we never really knew...


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 20th 2009, 04:29 AM

Just be smart and stay away from marijuana.


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 20th 2009, 02:26 PM

Everything causes cancer, red dye causes cancer, and apparently dogs cause breast cancer. I'm not that surprised.


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 20th 2009, 02:43 PM

Weed in labratory settings is less harmless, because the scientist can make there own blunts, with well just the grass

Weed from drug dealers are even more harmful. Because they are full of additives to make it more addictive/filler/tasty?/cheaper/larger/fresher?/ect and drug dealers are not know to be scientist who needs a clean sterile enviroment. Scientist actually washes their equipment... how about drug dealers?

Drug dealers products are full of crap so watch out. These reports are problem not as accurate as u think it is. Because the street drugs are not regulated therefore your more likely to get harmed in ways you cannot imagine.

The bottom line is drugs are bad, they waste your life, wallet, time and reputation.

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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 20th 2009, 03:39 PM

Wow, 33? You know there are like hundreds of dangerous chemicals in tobbacco? As a smoker, all I can say is whatever. If people only do it occassionally, it probably wont do anything.
   
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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 23rd 2009, 04:19 PM

Marijuana smoke is certainly not harmless, however there have been many studies that have shown just the opposite as well:

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection - washingtonpost.com

Marijuana is pretty safe to smoke.

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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 23rd 2009, 05:16 PM

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The bottom line is drugs are bad, they waste your life, wallet, time and reputation.
TV wastes your life, wallet, time, and reputation as well. But that's okay, right?


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 23rd 2009, 07:00 PM

of course weed isn't harmless. to be honest i've given up caring if other people want to smoke, be it cigarettes or weed.. it's their decision really.


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 24th 2009, 04:15 AM

I have an idea! How about everyone who smokes marijuana eats 4000 pomegranates. That'll reverse the damage, right?


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 24th 2009, 09:19 PM

33 chemicals? Woooooow.

There are over 4000 chemicals in cigarettes. The biggest of those being Arsenic. Do you know what arsenic does to carbon based lifeforms such as us? It kills us. It's our natural poison.

There's also formaldehyde (embalming fluid), benzene (chemical found in gasoline and pesticides), Cadmium (heavy metal found in batteries), Ammonia, Cyanide, Carbon Monoxide, DDT, Polonium... yadda yadda, basically its a miracle how all of these chemicals in your system at once wont drop you immediately upon inhalation.

But it's clearly safer and better than marijuana, so keep it legal.

Also, what if you don't like pomegranates?


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 24th 2009, 09:27 PM

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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 24th 2009, 10:08 PM

Eating too much food can kill you. Not enough food can kill you. Smoking can kill you. Sitting in front of a computer can kill you. If they want to live as long as possible and spend hours analyzing their food with computer programs to ensure they have the perfect meal with all the nutrients it can have while maintaining 1/2 of what is recommended just to prolong their lifespan, then let them (note: real diet, but it takes a lot of effort and is done under the careful watch of a doctor). I say let people do what floats their boat.


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 25th 2009, 01:57 AM

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Marijuana smoke is certainly not harmless, however there have been many studies that have shown just the opposite as well:

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection - washingtonpost.com

Marijuana is pretty safe to smoke.

Hmmm..

Weed leads too testicle cancer.
CTV.ca | Marijuana linked to higher risk of testicular cancer

"...dramatically increase a man's risk of developing the most aggressive form of testicular cancer, a new study suggests. Researchers at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center found that being a marijuana user at the time of diagnosis was linked with a 70 per cent increased risk of testicular cancer."



Damages your DNA and potential cancer problems
Marijuana Damages DNA And May Cause Cancer
Marijuana Damages DNA and May Cause Cancer - Yahoo! News


Of course its healthy if you like ur balls off.

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TV wastes your life, wallet, time, and reputation as well. But that's okay, right?

Last time I check lack of self control is pretty much what causes people to fail in life.

Like the inablity to stop breaking the law to use drugs.

Whats the point of using weed? Too feel good?? Some people think killing feels good?

How about rapeing?? isnt raping suppose to feel good because its sex? But its illegal aint it???


Bottom line is Drugs are illegal Tv isnt. There is a big gap.

TV and weed are not clearly not the same. One is legal the other 1 isnt.

Street weed is bad, alot of crime is associated with it.

IF people hate to buy, cheap chinese labour. cuz of the unethical problems that came with it and blood diamonds well u hippies gotta consider the ruined families, chemicals and questional practices(violance, ect..) that goes behind it.

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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 25th 2009, 02:32 AM

meh, I'm not considering weed dangerous until it's the direct cause of thousands of deaths. You know, like every other drug.


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 25th 2009, 03:22 AM

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Last time I check lack of self control is pretty much what causes people to fail in life.

Like the inablity to stop breaking the law to use drugs.

Whats the point of using weed? Too feel good?? Some people think killing feels good?

How about rapeing?? isnt raping suppose to feel good because its sex? But its illegal aint it???
Rape is wrong because it directly hurts other people. Weed is fine because the person chooses to 'hurt' (lol) themselves.

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Bottom line is Drugs are illegal Tv isnt. There is a big gap.

TV and weed are not clearly not the same. One is legal the other 1 isnt.

Street weed is bad, alot of crime is associated with it.

IF people hate to buy, cheap chinese labour. cuz of the unethical problems that came with it and blood diamonds well u hippies gotta consider the ruined families, chemicals and questional practices(violance, ect..) that goes behind it.
Yep, we always should follow government rules because the government is never wrong and it's always bad to do illegal things. I should have realized this...


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 25th 2009, 04:26 AM

Pot smokers know it causes cancer, we just don't give a shit.


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 25th 2009, 04:54 PM

All I can say is that I absolutely despise being part of the scientific community when we're told how many things cause cancer.
Cabbage does apparently. Frankly, the chace of getting cancer from pot or cabbage etc, is minute, yes it can. But what percentage of the time? Out of one hundred, how many will get cancer, and generally, the number for new cancinogenics is small. Using words like 'dramatically increases' and 'high chance' is not statistics that I will believe. Give me a scientific experiment involving people over a long period of time for carcinogenics, and I'd be more willing to believe.


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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 25th 2009, 05:05 PM

Wait? Haven't there been multiple studies that show no link to cancer and some that even show that marijuana is GOOD at fighting certain cancer growth. Then one study comes along and says there is a link and poof, good bye all the other research.

Also, this study (if it is correct) is irrelevant if marijuana users use a vaporizer.
   
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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - June 25th 2009, 06:00 PM

Apparently Diet Coke causes cancer, Cabbage causes cancer.

There are hundereds of things that are bad for you. Theres no point in being uptight about absolutely everything. It's all about personal preference. I think; if you want to smoke weed, go for it. Let life take it's course.

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Last time I check lack of self control is pretty much what causes people to fail in life.

Like the inablity to stop breaking the law to use drugs.

Whats the point of using weed? Too feel good?? Some people think killing feels good?

How about rapeing?? isnt raping suppose to feel good because its sex? But its illegal aint it???


Bottom line is Drugs are illegal Tv isnt. There is a big gap.

TV and weed are not clearly not the same. One is legal the other 1 isnt.
The legality of weed has nothing to do with this debate and neither does rape - they are not connected.
And you said about killing feeling good?
As far as i know - weed is yet to kill anyone.

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Re: So, Marijuana smoke is harmless right? - July 9th 2009, 03:13 AM

I think if people want to mess up their bodies and their lives by using drugs, then it's their prerogative. But they should do so in a setting where the smoke won't come in contact with people who don't want contact with it.

If marijuana becomes legal in the US, restrictions should obviously be put in place as to where people are allowed to smoke it. (As in, not around children and only in private rooms and whatnot.)

I'm a "just say no" kind of girl, and it's obvious that smoke of any kind can cause serious damage, but if the people are willing adults then it's their business and not mine. Same thing with cigarettes. As long as they don't smoke indoors or around children I may be pissed that they are messing up their bodies, but it's their choice.


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