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Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 01:46 AM

Hello everyone, I just wanted to state something that gets on my nerves a lot. I am a good portion German, and I am very proud of that. Sadly people take that to mean I am a Hitler supporter, I don't dress like it, or have a shaven head. I am just proud to be German and proud of the German army all throughout history. But whenever I say that I get that "look" from people. Why is it that there can be an entire month dedicated to Hispanic heritage and Black heritage but we can't have even a single day for German, or European in general heritage? It's as if the minority is more racist then they make them out to be.


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 02:00 AM

It's cool that you are proud to be a german, I am proud to be a mexican. Sometimes when I tell people I am a Mexican they asume I rite donkey and wear a mexican hat and drink tequila all day. I guess every heritage has its own sterotypes.


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 02:04 AM

Yeah I know what you mean, it's as if I can't be proud to be German, I like the military marches and have always believed in them throughout history.


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 02:05 AM

It's true that every culture and nationality has stereotypes. By God, I'm an American, so I'm fat, lazy, cocky, and eat absolutely everything deep-fried.


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 02:07 AM

Special treatment to some groups.


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 02:39 AM

Like this for example, it's a beautiful song mixed with moving clips of the German Army. Just because I am proud of the German Army and all of their acomplishments doesn't mean I am a Nazi. Most of the Whermacht didn't even know about the gassings, it was the SS, and even most of them weren't aware!


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 02:47 AM

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Like this for example, it's a beautiful song mixed with moving clips of the German Army. Just because I am proud of the German Army and all of their acomplishments doesn't mean I am a Nazi. Most of the Whermacht didn't even know about the gassings, it was the SS, and even most of them weren't aware!
I know exactly how you feel dude. My great uncle drove a Tiger Tank in the Panzer Lehr, and I rarely ever bring it up because of the "But your jewish?!" and "LOL Nazi" reactions I get.


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I know exactly how you feel dude. My great uncle drove a Tiger Tank in the Panzer Lehr, and I rarely ever bring it up because of the "But your jewish?!" and "LOL Nazi" reactions I get.
If you ever get the chance let him know I said thank you, one of my relatives was oe of the final people to leave the Fuhrerbunker when the Soviets stormed Berlin. He was part of the Hitler Youth.


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If you ever get the chance let him know I said thank you, one of my relatives was oe of the final people to leave the Fuhrerbunker when the Soviets stormed Berlin. He was part of the Hitler Youth.
Ha, I would, but, he died in his tank. Battle of the Bulge.

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Ha, I would, but, he died in his tank. Battle of the Bulge.

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Aww I'm sorry about him, he did a great service.

My relative was an assistant to Hitler and if I am correct also worked the radio when he could.


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 09:51 AM

I get liking 'your country' and all. I like being Canadian. But I dont think one should ever be proud of wars. Interested by them maybe, proud, not so much.
   
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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 02:46 PM

I find it interesting that people accuse you of being a neo-nazi considering you have the old German flag (prussian?) in your sig But I get completely where you're coming from, there's a german guy in my class who has to put up with the whole Hitler thing. It's a bit funny really considering Hitler was Austrian...
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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 04:52 PM

well you can be proud to be German but the minute you bring the army and wars into the conversation surely you can't be surprised that you get a negative reaction?


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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 05:04 PM

Seeing as Horst Wessel Lied was actually the anthem of the Nazi Party, I don't think it's suprising that you get a negative reaction from liking this song. However, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to be interested in German History, especially if it's your own country or you have German blood.
I'm very interested in Nazism, but it doesn't mean I'm a Neo-Nazi, most people just seem to jump to conclusions. I don't think it's wrong to be interested in German history (including Nazism) but I don't think it would particularly be appropriate to 'celebrate' it. Unfortunately, I'm sure that Nazism and the holocaust are the first things that are going to jump into peoples minds if German History is mentioned. I'm not saying that's right, it's just what's going to happen. Of course Germany shouldn't be stereotyped, but it's going to happen just like it happens everywhere else in the world.
   
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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 06:20 PM

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well you can be proud to be German but the minute you bring the army and wars into the conversation surely you can't be surprised that you get a negative reaction?
Don't forget that war and the idiologies behind war are separate things. A German soldier and a British soldier are completely alike, a German Nazi party member and a British MEP are not.
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Re: Hated Majority - October 9th 2009, 10:52 PM

I get why people react badly to you. The fucking Horst Wessel Lied?! It's an (if not *the anthem of the Nazis. Neonazis sing it. In Germany it's forbidden by law to sing it. Just thinking about makes me sick. It's not a good thing. You shouldn't be surprised if people accuse you of Nazism if you keep sprouting that kind of ideology and use those symbols. A shaven head doesn't make you a Nazi... the ideology does.

Be proud of Germany. But why don't you be proud of the Germany of today? Why keep grovelling to a group of criminals and cowards of more than 60 (!) years ago?

Germany has become a good, strong country. It should be appreciated for what it is today, not what it once was.
   
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I get why people react badly to you. The fucking Horst Wessel Lied?! It's an (if not *the anthem of the Nazis. Neonazis sing it. In Germany it's forbidden by law to sing it. Just thinking about makes me sick. It's not a good thing. You shouldn't be surprised if people accuse you of Nazism if you keep sprouting that kind of ideology and use those symbols. A shaven head doesn't make you a Nazi... the ideology does.

Be proud of Germany. But why don't you be proud of the Germany of today? Why keep grovelling to a group of criminals and cowards of more than 60 (!) years ago?

Germany has become a good, strong country. It should be appreciated for what it is today, not what it once was.
Well Germany bows the the (Socialist run) Europian Union, and has to deal with the blame for a good deal of problems, and is now paying taxes to the EU because they pollute to much? That's not strong, that's a mockery of the German people! Ok I will admit the Horst Wessel Lied MIGHT be over the top so I am going to change it to the Kongreitzer Marsch.


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