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UN complaint launched over tuition - December 3rd 2009, 11:39 PM

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/com...723/story.html

http://ubyssey.ca/news/?p=11273

So this isn't really international news, but it's this big thing going on at my school right now, and I'm wondering what others think. I'm pretty embarrassed for my school. Basically, the president of our student union and his VP external decided to file a human rights complaint with the UN on behalf of our student union, without first consulting the rest of the council or students. The complaint claimed that the government is violating its commitment under the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural rights, which Canada signed in 1976, “by failing to adequately control tuition fees and not providing sufficient financial support to students.”

There's been a lot of backlash from students at my university. The student council held an emergency meeting, where they unanimously decided to withdraw the complaint, and asked the President and VP external to resign. The two didn't show up to defend themselves, but have refused to resign. They are now appealing to the students, claiming that they were democratically elected based on a tuition platform, and the student union is trying to undermine democracy by impeaching them.

I don't think there's any student at my school who wouldn't be pleased with lower tuition. But they're elected to represent students and work with the rest of the council, not to have carte-blanche and do whatever they please, ignoring procedure in the process. I don't think it's inappropriate or undemocratic to ask for their removal. This is hardly the first time they've acted childishly while using the student union's name.

So, with all that background, I guess I have two question for you guys:

1. Do you think rising tuitions are a valid human rights complaint to make to the UN?

2. Do you think that the reaction of the council, ie. removing the President and VP, is an appropriate one?


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Re: UN complaint launched over tuition - December 3rd 2009, 11:42 PM

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Re: UN complaint launched over tuition - December 3rd 2009, 11:55 PM

1)no
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Re: UN complaint launched over tuition - December 4th 2009, 12:13 AM

How is it a human rights violation?


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Re: UN complaint launched over tuition - December 4th 2009, 04:08 AM

I really don't know. It's one of the reasons the students at the school are upset, calling high tuition a human rights violation makes it seem like we're all whiny, spoiled brats that are completely aware of global issues. If I had to guess, he probably links high tuitions to furthering the poverty cycle, but I hardly support his complaint.


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Re: UN complaint launched over tuition - December 4th 2009, 04:27 AM

1) I think that's really debateable and all. I think it *could* be, but probably isn't.

2) Absolutely. They went skipping over the line of what was appropriate, maybe stopping to spit on it. But seriously, to do something that serious without consulting anyone else, no matter what platform they had, is ridiculous. They should be impeached. I really don't think they deserve a second chance. Not in such an important position.


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Re: UN complaint launched over tuition - December 4th 2009, 04:47 AM

1. No.
2. Yep. Definitely have it coming. =/


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